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/ Home / Archive: The 2012 Scenario / In Response to Readers’ Comments…. (Revised)
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In Response to Readers’ Comments…. (Revised)

June 23, 2012 by Steve Beckow

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Revised and reissued

(The email continues to come in on the subject of catastrophism. I’ve rewritten and added to this earlier post.  I’ve also brought forward a cumulative post called “Ready-Reference Guide: There’s No Need to Fear.”

Please see as well Footnote 7 which contains a bibliography on the subject of catastrophism. After this communication on the subject, I’d prefer to move on, if you’ll permit me.)

Numerous people are corresponding with us about channeled messages they’ve received, different timelines,  etc., in relation to lines of channeling that tell us to expect coastal flooding, three days of darkness, solar storms, widespread destruction, etc.

Some are offering explanations of what they think happened to produce the message on coastal flooding. Others are defending that message and asking us to re-post the channel. Some are reporting what they themselves have received.  Others are saying I’ve changed and it started with the Grener expedition, that I’ve veered off into this or that.  Heavens to Betsy.

Some of you are writing in and saying that another channel has said there will be three days of darkness. I’m familiar with the other channel and don’t consider her to be credible, even if my colleagues on other sites post her. I personally don’t accept the theory that there will be three days of darkness. And, yes, I know that Drunvalo does.

Others are saying “the Russian government” says there will be widespread destruction.  Please check to see if you’re not citing information that originated with Sorcha Faal (who is not credible). Faal is a pseudonym for David Booth who is probably a CIA disinformer. If it was posted in the European Times, it comes from Faal.

I’m not sure why we’ve been bitten so bad lately with catastrophism. But it’s my understanding that no catastrophe is pending for the world. That’s certainly the version of events that we’re placing our bet on here.

I’m also a little amazed at how many people are prepared to accept catastrophism. And how many are prepared to try to get this blogsite to accept that view. For three years now, we here have carefully sifted through a very large number of channeled messages, weighed who speaks most reliably, and demonstrated that their messages say there is no catastrophe that will happen for the world. But many, many readers seem to favor that view. I’m not sure why.

In the meantime, the Galactic Federation came here in millions of ships to prevent the cabal from staging World War III and destroying the planet through  radioactivity, chemtrails, weather warfare, and pandemics.  But though they’ve rescued us from these circumstances, we seem inclined to associate them with a stand-off attitude towards future catastrophe. Why would they prevent the cabal from destroying the world and then stand by and watch the world destroyed by preventable natural calamities?

The version of our future that I prefer (I can’t speak for the other editors) is contained in SaLuSa’s message of June 22, 2012:

“Our tasks are looking a lot easier now that the dark Ones are no longer the power they were. The work of our allies has been extremely successful in breaking down their power structure, and they no longer command such large forces as previously. In fact their capitulation has taken place in all but name, and we await their final admission of defeat.

“So whatever news you hear do not fear the consequences as we are in control, and short of minor irritations we will not allow our efforts to be interfered with. There are still those who paint a picture of catastrophic happenings, but be assured that any physical changes will be more in the way of local changes and not world wide.

“Bear in mind that we can moderate the effects of earthquakes, and contain them to ensure that only the minimum of damage occurs. A long time ago your seers saw massive changes coming and prophesied them accordingly, but with time those possibilities became less catastrophic. So when people refer back to them remember that they are no longer in line with the current view on physical changes.” (1) 

We cannot know whether SaLuSa intentionally posted this to provide his view of the controversy.  I personally think he did.

But let’s look at a few things about it. There are two sources of coastal flooding: (1) the dark cabal’s weather warfare and (2) Gaia’s changes.

In regard to (1), we can see that we’ve had a relatively quiet past six months. HAARP activity appears to be almost absent (Dutch Sinse would know better about this. Dutch?).  There have been no major earthquakes, hurricanes, floods, snowstorms, or wildfires that I’m aware of.  So it appears safe to say that the cabal has lost its ability to cause widespread “natural” calamities such as it did with Japan, Haiti, Louisiana, Chile, etc.

Sometimes karmic or safety considerations were in play that meant that the Galactic Federation could not intervene wholly but could mitigate events. In the case of the Japanese earthquake and tsunami, please keep in mind that the cabal intended to swamp the whole of Japan. Here is Matthew Ward explaining:

“Our space family was able to thwart their goal to level cities, flood the island and kill most of its inhabitants; however, harnessing the full force of the ocean is beyond the capability of [our space family’s] technology.”  (2)

In regards to (2), we follow the version of events which is typified by the Arcturian Group’s statement: “There will be more earth changes, but the Light is keeping things as gentle as possible.”  (3)  Or I could have said that I support what SaLuSa said on June 22:

“We can moderate the effects of earthquakes, and contain them to ensure that only the minimum of damage occurs. A long time ago your seers saw massive changes coming and prophesied them accordingly, but with time those possibilities became less catastrophic. So when people refer back to them remember that they are no longer in line with the current view on physical changes.” (4)

Here is the picture of flooding that has been presented:

“You are being notified that sea levels will rise as you approach the last few months of your calendar year of 2012. You are now being informed that there will be several areas around your planet that will receive high enough levels of flooding that temporary relocations are the only means to ensure the safety and comfort of thousands and even millions of your population. How you choose to receive, register and respond to this information that we are sharing with you is all up to you.” (5)

“Millions” qualifies as “catastrophic happenings,” in my books.

SaLuSa has said: “Massive changes … are no longer in line with the current view on physical changes.” That seems pretty unequivocal to me. “There are still those who paint a picture of catastrophic happenings, but be assured that any physical changes will be more in the way of local changes and not world wide.’

And “so whatever news you hear do not fear the consequences as we are in control.” I don’t think SaLuSa could be more straightforward.

There isn’t much more SaLuSa would probably say. The galactics won’t enter directly into our disagreements. Archangel Michael will on occasion to straighten us out. Matthew Ward will comment.

The Galactic Federation has been so careful not to do anything that would stampede especially new readers or people unfamiliar with the events of 2012 and Ascension.  Why would they throw all caution to the wind and post a picture of Noah’s Ark, risking raising in some perhaps undiscerning people’s minds the possibility of a global or worldwide flood? Please keep in mind that Noah’s flood saw the whole Earth covered. A dove could not find land. Why would higher-dimensional galactics, ascended masters and celestials be so careless as to awaken that image in our minds? Many of us are said to have been here at the time Atlantis collapsed.  I don’t believe the Company of Heaven would risk awakening our memories, even if for clearing.

Readers should be aware that we, the editors, have been watching this story unfold for perhaps one, perhaps two months now and we’ve tried to post the channeler’s messages in whom they appear wherever we could. You may recall at one point that we posted pros and cons on the question. (6) I think we’ve been as fair and patient as we can be in how we’ve approached the coastal-flood theme.

But there comes a point where what is being said passes the bounds of where we’re prepared to go. And a discussion of extensive flooding of coastal areas, in which millions are said to be potentially affected, accompanied by images and descriptions of Noah’s Ark, passes the point where I (speaking personally) want to be associated with the story any longer or to appear as if we’re giving our stamp of approval to it.

It isn’t a question of anything that happened earlier, such as the Grener expedition. It’s a question of I simply won’t go there and I’ve lost faith for the moment in the situation of the source of the messages, a place that it’s taken me some months to get to because I was initially a big supporter.

If we hear differently from Matthew, SaLuSa, Saul, Archangel Michael or anyone else, I’ll gladly acknowledge that I was mistaken. But I don’t think we will. I could ask AAM in my reading on Wednesday or on An Hour with an Angel when next I speak to him.

But I have to say that, even without asking him, I don’t feel myself willing to go with this version of events. It simply isn’t true as far as I’m concerned in the first place. And it has too much potential to panic. Is it not what you expect of us that we should stand out against a view that might tend to panic? If not, what do you look to us for?

To do otherwise, in my personal view, undoes everything that we’re about here, which is to post the truest possible version of events and assist the Company of Heaven in eliminating fear from our response to them and opening ourselves to the events that will lead to Ascension.

I’d like to let the topic of catastrophism go now and move on to whatever is next, if you’d permit me. There will be no catastrophe for the world, as far as I’m aware, but there will be an Ascension. And it’s that that we need to prepare for, not, as far as I can see, the world sinking under the waves.

Footnotes

(1) SaLuSa, June 22, 2012, at  https://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/Channeled_Messages_by_Mike_Quinsey.htm

(2) Suzy Ward to Steve Beckow, correcting Matthew’s Message, March 12, 2011.  Why the galactics couldn’t simply pull the plug on the cabal’s technology is explained here.  I don’t know which hurricane Matthew is referring to.

“Hatonn just told me that the Illuminati know of our space family’s interference because intended destruction hasn’t happened. Apparently they suspected that but it was conclusive when that hurricane weakened over the ocean, then turned and went north instead of hitting the US mainland, which wasn’t at all what the Illuminati had designed.

“He said that technologies to initiate earthquakes and weather manipulation have been refined and intensified over the years. Major storms used to be produced by one system and quakes by another, but because of ET interference, the Illuminati scientists started using a combination of technologies, like back-ups in case one system isn’t as effective as they want, but also to make it more difficult for ET technologies to interfere with all of the energy sources simultaneously.

“He said that in Japan, one of HAARP’s several capacities in various locations has been used in conjunction with developments from Tesla’s inventions and discoveries to produce destruction from above and below Earth’s surface. Even with ETs’ advanced technologies it’s not a simple matter to dismantle all of the Illuminati’s equipment without interrupting essential power and communication sources that serve us, not only the Illuminati. That’s why discussions are going on at the highest levels of the universal council as to the best way to proceed.

”  (Matthew’s Message, March 25, 2011.)

(3) Arcturian Group, April 3, 2012, at https://www.onenessofall.com

(4) SaLuSa, June 22, 2012.

(5)  Greg Giles,  “Message from the Galactic Federation of Light 6/18/12 ‘The Ark of Noah & 2012,’” at    https://www.ascensionearth2012.org/2012/06/message-from-galactic-federation-of_6715.html

(6) “Planetary Evacuation/Relocation: Pro and Con,” at https://goldenageofgaia.com/the-2012-scenario/the-time-of-troubles/planetary-evacuationrelocation-pro-and-con/

(7)

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