Geoff West interviewed Bill Brockbrader Monday, July 2, 2012, on Cosmic Vision News. I post that interview but have to add that neither Geoff nor I subscribe to the view that it’s possible to launch a successful false-flag operation in the Persian Gulf or to ignite World War III.
Admittedly the cabal has tried to launch nuclear war in the past and has been prevented by the galactics and will be prevented in this and all other attempts as well.
Some will say, and have said, how can the cabal launch a false flag in the Persian Gulf given that they have been removed? I’m not aware that the whole of the cabal have been apprehended. But that’s as far as I can take that discussion because plainly I don’t know the timetable for the apprehension of the whole of the cabal.
Matthew Ward has said some time back that there would continue to be saber-rattling by the great powers but that none of it would go anywhere. And SaLuSa said today (July 4, 2012) that “some circumstances are allowed to develop, and in so doing we hope to catch the dark Ones in their acts.”
Bill talks about much more than just this topic. I thoroughly admire his activism and enjoy his grasp of unitive and other spiritual subjects and much else that he says here. I have no doubt personally that he is a very interesting and strong contributor to the events of these times. Thanks to Ellen for this transcript.
Bill Brockbrader on Cosmic Vision News, July 2, 2012
Geoffrey West: Okay, CVN is actually very pleased at this point in time, we’re just going to change things up a little bit here. We had a few other stories that we were planning to run with, and I was very grateful to have the opportunity to connect with Eva More and Bill Brockbrader just before the show. And this caused a little bit of the change-up in the activities. So what I would like to do is just take a moment here to activate the microphone, and I’d like to welcome Bill to Cosmic Vision News.
Bill Brockbrader: Hello! It’s good to be here.
GW: Thanks, Bill. I guess congratulations are in order. You’re experiencing a little bit more freedom at this time, but I know that you were actually saying to the listeners that you were anxious and actually welcoming going after them on their own turf.
Maybe just quickly summarize what you were feeling and what you were kind of hoping to take on with them during that initial process.
BB: Well, the process hasn’t been changed due to my release. The pretrial release was just an unexpected and very fortunate happenstance. Everybody rose up and worked together and got the attention of the criminal justice system and made things available that made it so I could be released prior to my trial. And it’s certainly something that I wasn’t expecting. But everybody worked hard to send the letters in, to show the support, and then, after a very short period of time raised the amount of money that I needed for bail.
So, you know, I’m ever so grateful for everybody that contributed to that process, because I wasn’t expecting it, and I don’t think anybody in the Prosecutor’s office was expecting the kind of support that I was given, so…
GW: Wonderful. So how — as far as the staff working at the jail, I can imagine that they probably have not been accustomed to this kind of activity taking place for someone being in their particular jail. So, how were the staff to you, and how were they reacting to all this?
BB: I think the staff was — you know, a simple word — overwhelmed. They reacted kind of — what’s a good way to say it? — they were just kind of blown away. I mean, first of all, there’s not many letters that come in. They’re probably used to delivering maybe one or two letters a day to people at the max, and, you know, I’m getting, you know, 20, 30 letters a day, and they’re coming in from all over the world. And that kind of thing really gets attention really quick.
And so, I’m sure that in this little county jail in Boise, Idaho they really didn’t know what to think about all of it, other than the fact that, you know, it was happening, and undeniably. So, it was kind of fun to just see them handle me with kind of the kid gloves, and not really know what was up.
GW: Sure. No, absolutely. Now, I know that you’ve got your own show coming up. You’re getting back on air this evening. You know, one of the things I’m really grateful about, I had the opportunity to connect with Eva while you were visiting our brothers in arms at the jail, and, you know …
BB: Um-hmm.
GW: … we had some really wonderful discussions about the larger significance of the changes that are taking place. And although I’ve been grateful to be able to use sources that have already come out in terms of whistleblowing, I have felt that your perspective, yours and Eva’s perspective, is slightly more open to the larger, higher perspective than the other sources.
I mean, Cobra does address it, and I mean certainly no disrespect to Cobra, and I’m grateful to have that information. But the fact that you are here sharing now, I’m really keen to hear what you have to say. I understand you have some information or some announcements that you would like to make, so I think I’m just going to turn things over to you and let you go.
BB: Well, I guess the big thing that my incarceration did teach me and I’m able to show people is that the power of arrest is, I think, the last fear that we need to let go of before any kind of major change will take place.
Certainly I can say with the Occupy movement, though there were a lot of arrests during that time, not everybody was prepared to give up some moments of freedom to gain their complete freedom and exercise the changes. And I believe the term “freedom isn’t free” is what we’re kind of looking at right now.
And what I’m hoping to get people to understand is that the mass arrests do need to happen, one way or another. Either the mass arrest — either the military and the government law enforcement agencies uphold their oath and take charge of this situation as they promised to do when they started their employment, or the citizens of the country are going to take it in their hands, and they’re going to force the issue.
And I think everybody would agree with me that the criminal justice system does have a capacity, and that capacity is the amount of people that they can arrest, process and jail in one day. If there are more people willing to be arrested to protest and to exercise their First Amendment rights to petition their government, then they have a real problem. Because then, no more — no amount of arrests, no amount of riot gear, no amount of tear gas — no amount of anything can produce enough fear enough to back us down.
And so, this is kind of the final stepping stone — and Drake kind of paved the way, as well as Cobra, announcing this — the mass arrests need to be imminent, and I agree with that. I’m going to be showing people that, you know, getting arrested’s not such a big deal, if you put it in a broader perspective of fighting for your freedom. And when the powers that be realize that that’s the last thing that they had over us, to control us with fear, and now fear is gone, they’re going to have to come to the table, and they’re going to have to negotiate with 100 percent of the population. Because we have the control, we have the capacity to control our government, and we can show our government that we’re not afraid of what they can or cannot do to us.
And I think this year things are a little bit more real in the fact that today on the news Iran announced that they are drafting legislation to close the Straits of Hormuz. This is the Pearl Harbor of World War Three. Certainly in World War Two the embargo of Japan caused a reaction of the Japanese naval forces to bomb Pearl Harbor so they could break the embargo. It ended up being the worst mistake they ever made, but at the same time we now look back on it and realize that it was probably wholly preventable on our part, and we just kind of let it happen so we could get into the war.
Many people have spoken about a false flag event happening in the Straits of Hormuz. Foster Gamble in particular suggested that it would be the USS Enterprise. And I have to agree with him, that, you know, the destruction of the USS Enterprise, the aircraft carrier, would cause the US Government to be able to enact war against Iran.
What we need to realize is the same thing that we realize now with 9/11. World Trade Center Towers One and Two were due to be renovated and have all the asbestos removed out of those two buildings right before they were destroyed. It was very convenient that those buildings were destroyed so that they didn’t have to spend more than the cost that it took to construct those two buildings to remove the asbestos — much to the health costs of all of the people, the rescue workers and the clean-up crews that are now suffering from various cancers because of what they were doing and not told.
The same is for the USS Enterprise. It’s an old aircraft carrier, it’s due to be decommissioned after this cruise, and it’s full of radioactive material. It’s going to be very expensive to get rid of. What better way to cause a false flag and destroy an aircraft carrier that the government is otherwise going to have to spend millions and millions of dollars to decommission, when they can just radiate the Straits of Hormuz with it?
And I think everybody’s very aware of that fact. And the best way to prevent a false flag from happening is to have way too much public knowledge ahead of time. And so I’m going to be pushing this issue as hard and as fast as I can, because I believe that once the powers that be understand that we know the plan, we’re going to trump their game every time it’s their turn to make a move. They really have to start considering, “Why don’t we just throw in the towel? Maybe it won’t be so bad.”
And that’s what I’m hoping for with the mass arrests now, is that they realize that there’s somebody out there screaming, what’s going to happen if the mass arrests don’t go down?
GW: Right. Now, I can appreciate that you haven’t had much opportunity to get familiar with the type of newscast that I’ve been delivering. And I do focus on bringing in the galactic and the celestial perspectives with regards to all that is happening. And on the show previous, just before Cosmic Vision News this evening, Archangel Michael had indicated that the idea of participating in the mass arrests is still of a three dimensional perspective, and if we really wish to make the changes, the celestial realm has indicated that they have the potential to put the — anybody who they deem necessary into a container, what they call a containment field of light in which they are … any energies that they put out are immediately bounced back to them. And, in essence, I guess, it’s like a spiritual Chinese water torture, kind of [ ? ].
And the messages from the galactics have indicated that no significant events of major destruction will be allowed to occur. Have any of your sources commented on that, or do you have any personal comments on that?
BB: I would agree with that comment, because I do believe that we have galactic brothers and sisters out there looking out for us. But metaphorically speaking, you can’t teach an infant to walk by constantly carrying them. I believe that according to universal law we need to exercise our free will and show that we’re ready for this next step in the evolution of consciousness.
Now, when we do exercise our free will in accordance with universal law, the goal is met. Do the mass arrests necessarily need to happen for the [stuff? step?] to move forward? No. Because if we’re all ready to do what it takes to change the three dimensional environment that we exist in right now, that’s the parameter that really needs to be met, is free will, choice. Once everybody’s prepared to lay their freedom on the line, to change, the change will happen.
And it’s kind of like the last hurdle that we need to get over as far as our fear, because we do prevent this change happening because of fear. We get in fear, and our consciousness is creating the fear in the world. And as soon as we eliminate that fear, we’ve satisfied that requirement of universal law, by choosing peace.
I personally think that the mass arrests are real enough and maybe could happen, but at the same time, do I feel that they’re necessary for the kind of change that we need? No. I think it would be a giant waste of our time to focus on trials and convictions of people that are essentially our brothers and sisters. And once we realize that they were the force that showed us that there was a problem, so we could come up with the solution, we’ll understand that everybody had a role in this change that is necessary for humanity to realize their full potential.
And I think a good example of humanity having that realization is what happened in my particular situation with my release. Nobody thought I was getting out of jail prior to my trial. Absolutely blown away when people used their free will to literally get me out of jail. And, I mean, that’s something tangible that I can point to and say, “See? This is how powerful we are.” All this fear that our government tries to create in us, and we didn’t let it happen. They — we — I mean, thousands of people got together and trumped the fear of incarceration, and I was out, just that quick.
And when we do finally really flex our, you know, metaphysical muscle and show what kind of unique and special entities we are as a human race, then we can realize how important it is for us to join our galactic community and our universal community and not be focused on the silly little three dimensional things that we are.
So, I do believe in a much greater spectrum of what’s about to occur. And right now we’re just taking the first few, unsteady steps. Very soon we’ll be walking and running. And I don’t think anybody can really get their head wrapped around what that is going to look like. But it’s going to really fast from here on out, as soon as we break the bonds of the enslavement that we suffer ourselves to.
GW: Right. So, if I’m hearing you correctly — and please, correct me if I’m off base — we as humanity should be taking our steps to exercise our free will and standing up and speaking out and doing what I personally call peaceful resistance, without fear of being arrested, so that we begin to apply pressure to the system and we begin to support each other in that process.
But as we witness the potential — and I’m going to lean towards “containment,” but many people aren’t familiar with that word yet, so I’m going to use “mass arrests” — we want to avoid stepping into judgment of those who have acted against us. We wish to try to avoid participating in actions directly related to negativity, so that we are starting off the creation of the new Gaia on the highest positive energies possible.
BB: And that is 100 percent correct. That’s where we’ve continued to stay in this cycle of three dimensional. Because once the victor, you know, in a battle, you know, achieved a goal, they became the new tyrant, eventually. And we need to break that process. We need to understand that no matter how out of line, you know, the individual was, we need to find it in our hearts to forgive and to let go of the anger and the perpetual cycle that that anger is going to create.
Once it’s all said and done, and once we’ve achieved our goals, there’s going to be better things to focus on — free energy, resource abundance, whatever you want to call it. Instead of spending our time, you know, enslaved to televisions and video games, we’re going to be able to reflect on massive amounts of knowledge and spend our time doing exactly what we want to do without the worry of needing to earn money. And I think everybody will be genuinely surprised, when you don’t need to earn a living anymore, because a living is a right of every human being, how fast we can grow — grow our knowledge, grow our spirituality, grow our understanding of what’s possible, because what’s possible is infinite.
And when we start to make those choices to move past the perpetual cycle of, you know, punishment and negativity and fear and anger, we’re going to see that there’s a lot more out there. And that’s kind of what I want everybody to think about during this mass arrest period, is, okay, mass arrests happen, the criminals are, you know, arrested and tried and convicted. Then where are we? We’re still in this cycle, a cycle that needs to be broken. The only way to break that cycle is to find forgiveness for what everybody would consider the most violent, detestable crimes of humanity so we can get past the negativity and only focus on the possibilities of the future.
And that can easily be done if we all realize that no matter who we are we all came from the same energy. Whatever you call it — most people call it God — but we were all created the same way from the same energy. And just because we happen to live on the same level of dimensional reality right now doesn’t mean we aren’t a bigger part of something else. And I think everybody understands that they have a soul, and your soul is infinite and progresses long after, you know, it leaves this reality. So, that’s the part of us that we need to focus on, and that’s the part of us that’s part of everybody else on the planet and the planet.
GW: Right.
BB: So, we need to just kind of come up with a better way of doing things. And I just am very, very confident that once the fear disappears from our minds, that this big wonderful thing will take over that fear and show us, you know, infinite possibilities of hope and love.
GW: Excellent. Well, we’re certainly — it certainly goes beyond merely the spiritual perspective, too, because certainly many think in scientific terms, and there is abundant scientific evidence at this time to show that we are all energy and that we are all very profoundly connected as One. And the energies of One spread out to impact the energies of all things around us, not just humanity, but the plants and even our planet, and even beyond that.
So, there is sufficient information available to both the spiritual and the scientific circles for the changes that are happening at this time.
Now, I know you’re going to have to shuffle off in a few minutes, I’m sure, but what — have your particular sources commented at all about the existence of our galactic families, or of anything that they might know or be participating in relative to that?
BB: Well, I’ll speak on it in the two terms that you just expressed. Scientifically speaking, the odds of us not having galactic brothers and sisters are almost infinitely impossible. The fact that we have dozens and dozens of documented sightings and interactions and people is undeniable. The Disclosure Project has spent a large amount of resource in gathering together all the information that scientifically proves that there is life outside of this planet, and we are probably a product of that life and not, you know, some anomaly that crawled from, you know, the swamp onto the land, and then evolved slowly over time. It’s more like we have been previously part of a galactic family and then kind of were left to our own devices to evolve to a point that I believe we’re at the precipice right now.
Spiritually speaking, I can say, from my own experience, if you get in a quiet place and you reach out and listen, not with your ears, but with your soul, that you find that connection to everything. And that connection, even though we can’t perceive it with our eyes or our ears or our nose or our mouth or our touch, it still exists, and it’s just as real as all the things that we know exist today that we can’t perceive with our five senses. Certainly nobody would argue that x-rays don’t exist, but we can’t see them, we can’t touch them, we can’t taste them, we can’t do anything.
So, I don’t think that there is a really good argument for the fact that we aren’t just down here getting ready for the big show, that everybody in the universe is kind of kicking back and waiting for it to finally happen.
Now, if everybody out there is watching us right now because they know something big’s going to happen, then I’d say it’s going to happen, and it’s just a matter of us waking up and realizing that this is who we are, and that our galactic family’s more than happy to welcome us in and become apparent on every level, not just on the one that is beyond our five senses.
So, you know, I hope that covers it, but, you know, that’s my perspective.
GW: Sure, absolutely. Quick question for you before we go. Do you see — I mean, with all the talk of July the 4th, what would be your creation, if you had the opportunity to create July the 4th for yourself this year?
BB: I would see the President pop on the television and use all of those emergency powers that have been granted to him, or that he’s granted to himself, and announce that change is happening, and that this is a real Independence Day not only for America but for the rest of the world, and we’re going to make changes that free the enslavement of most of humanity. And, you know, love for him to pop on and say, “Oh, by the way, here’s the keys to Area 51 and the Patent Office, and I’m giving them to Bill Brockbrader, because that boy has a plan.”
GW: Now that you just quickly mentioned that, another question has popped up in my head. Now, these 6,000 patents of technologies, have you yourself been made privy to any of the tech — of those particular technologies? Have your sources discussed any of those particular patents?
BB: Oh, yeah! There’s a YouTube video — and I think it’s under The Real Tree of Liberty, or The Real Tree of Liberty Movement — you’ll see me a couple of years ago that I constructed a hydroxy generator that actually produces enough hydrogen to run a generator that would run the hydroxy producer and, you know, a couple of other appliances.
Lately I’ve been working with two very wonderful pieces of equipment that I would love to get built as soon as possible. One is an arc plasma reactor, and basically what that would do is use raw material to break it down — and this is anything from household trash to spent nuclear reactor fuel rods — break them down to the sub-atomic level and then use the energy that is broken down to … 40 percent of the energy would run the reactor; the other 60 percent would be used as electricity, but eventually just pure energy. And then, with all those sub-atomic particles that are left, we can recombine them into anything. Because if you’ve got a big pile of protons, a big pile of neutrons and a big pile of electrons, you can make any atom you want.
GW: Star Trek replicator.
BB: That’s exactly what it would be. So, and that — and we’re working on a multi-dimensional computing system that blows Moore’s Law out of the water. And it makes it so we would be able to use this computer to basically calculate the resources that we have available currently and use them most productively for humanity as opposed to hoarding those resources and giving control over them to just, you know, a handful of people.
So, those are three examples. I could tell you about dozens of more. If you want to check it out, his name’s Patrick Kelly, it’s on the internet, he has a book called Free Energy Devices. If you google it you can download the whole 1200 page PDF and take a look at it. Hundreds of scientists from Tesla on up have come up with great ideas that have been quashed.
GW: Absolutely. Great. Okay, well, listen Bill, thank you for sharing some of your time with us here on Cosmic Vision News. I look forward to connecting with you and Eva again. I’m sorry we didn’t get a chance to speak much with Eva, so I send my greetings and love and light to you both. Good luck with what you’re working on at this time, and until the next moment of now.
BB: Thanks, Geoff. Look forward to talking to you again.
GW: Great. Have a good night.
BB: Bye.
[end of Bill Brockbrader segment]