Laura comes on at around five minutes in, and she responds to Ismael’s question about her great grandfather (President Eisenhower) by recounting a few family stories. She also points out that life in that environment isn’t (or wasn’t) what you might think.
The discussion evolves into Dwight Eisenhower’s influence and involvement with the White Hat Operation. It’s a fascinating look into the history of our contact and collaboration with Extra-Terrestrials, which, as we’ve been learning of late, hasn’t been at all to the benefit of humanity.
It’s a long one, and as you can imagine, the topics between these two are all over the place, and always interesting.