In the short entry that follows, the first of two entries, he suggests not. There are “other sheep … which are not of this fold” that he ministers to that are his responsibility as a shepherd unto ascension (Salvation, Redemption, Resurrection).
Somewhere … I’ll have to dig around … I have a transcript where he denies the opinion that only Christians will be saved.
He said, if I recall, that the matter of Ascension (Resurrection, Salvation) did not depend on what religion one followed. The rest I can’t recall.
I’m certainly not a Christian or a Jew or a Buddhist or anything else. Yet I must be one of Jesus’ most ardent admirers, as you can guess from my writings.
Jesus put non-dual Truths in a nutshell and then people like me come along and expand them into … many more words. Could I speak in parables? No.
I fully recognize the total specialness of the birth of a being of the evolutionary perfection of Jesus. To borrow from Sri Ramakrishna, below, “I bow again and again at the feet of Jesus Christ.”
That he would consent to endure a life inside one of these body tanks that we clatter around in and that inhibit the spirit so completely is a contribution. Ashtar, who resides in the Transcendental, will come down to the Fifth. (1) He didn’t say it but I’d add: No further. Jesus came down to the lowest level of form.
Jesus undoubtedly came from the Transcendental and was himself a conduit for the Holy Spirit, which we know is one of the Divine Mother’s guises. (2)
It’s my belief that Jesus is accepted as one of the avatars by Hindus and that many Hindus study his writings. I wonder if we can say the same thing about ourselves? Do we allow in the truths of other religions?
If Jesus confirms that he didn’t confine himself to just one group, why would we confine his later ministry to only one group?
Jesus’ message was universal, was it not? Is what we’ve done with it universal?
In the second, longer discussion, I discuss with him the term “avatar” as applicable to himself. He remembers the trouble one could get into – as we know, unto death – if one was suspected of being such a thing as the King of the Jews – or an avatar.
Jesus in John 10:16.
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold [i.e., the children of Israel]: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold [ascending beings], and one shepherd [Mother/Father God].
“Transcript of an Hour with an Angel, with Jesus, Jan. 16, 2012,” at http://goldenageofgaia.com/ascension-as-of-2012/the-masters-speak/transcript-of-an-hour-with-an-angel-with-jesus-jan-16-2012/
Steve: Sri Ramakrishna considers you an avatar and publicly declared that. (3) Can we talk about who was here then, please? You were here in bodily form. But –
Jesus: Yes.
S: – Sananda was also here overlighting you, was he not?
J: Yes.
S: So that would be a second layer to your ministry, so to speak, the overlighting.
J: That is correct.
S: And then in addition to that, the Holy Spirit descended into your form. Is that correct?
J: That is correct.
S: And did that, by the way, happen when you were being baptized in the River Jordan?
J: No, it happened at a very early age, actually. The baptism was a symbolic refilling, if you want to put it that way. But, no, in order for me to go forward in my journey on Earth, there was an infilling of the Holy Spirit at a very early age, of about five, five and a half. And then it was renewed, or – symbolically renewed – so that the people would know that this was available to everybody.
S: All right. Well, if you were the human form that was overlit by a spirit as exalted as Sananda, and the Holy Spirit descended into you, that I would call an “avatar.” Would you disagree?
J: [Laughs] I do not disagree. I simply say to you that it is a designation that I am not so eager to claim.
S: Okay.
J: Yes, I will accept it. You know there was so much controversy, when I did walk the Earth, not only about my family’s position but about the politics of the “King of the Jews” and wanting leadership and political intrigue. So I am always very hesitant to give myself or to accept designations.
Footnotes
(1) Ashtar: What we have done is we have brought our vibrations to the fifth dimension in order to be at a place where we can meet you. If you are to think of the human realm and what is available currently to you, if you were looking for me, I would be out of the realm of human experience. So, let us make that clear as well.
Steve Beckow: That means above the twelfth dimension, is that correct?
A: That is correct. (“An Introduction to Enlightenment and the Trinity – Part 2/2,” May 14, 2012, at http://goldenageofgaia.com/2012/05/14/an-introduction-to-enlightenment-and-the-trinity-part-22/.)
(2) As the Divine Mother confirmed: “Sometimes you tend to think of me as the Holy Spirit, but there is more to me than that, and there is a shade of the Father within there as well.” (“The Divine Mother: Come to Me as I Come to You – Part 1/2,” Oct. 17, 2012 at http://goldenageofgaia.com/2012/10/17/the-divine-mother-come-to-me-as-i-come-to-you-part-12/.)
(3) Here is Sri Ramakrishna’s conversation with Shivanath Shastri:
“Sir, one of my Christian friends has come to see you. Having heard of you from me, he was very eager to meet you.”
On hearing this Sri Ramakrishna bowed his head to the ground and said: “I bow again and again at the feet of Jesus Christ.”
Surprised at such utterance, Rev. Sannyal said: “How is it, sir, that you bow at the feet of Christ? What do you think of Him?”
Sri Ramakrishna: “Why, I look upon him as an Avatara.”
Rev. Sannyal: “Incarnation of God! Will you kindly explain what you mean by it? Is he one like Krishna and the others?”
Sri Ramakrishna: “Yes, exactly like that. An incarnation like our Rama and Krishna. Don’t you know there is a passage in the Bhagavata [Hindu scripture] where it is said that the incarnations of Vishnu or the Supreme Being are innumerable?”
Rev. Sannyal: “Please explain further. I do not understand it quite.”
Sri Ramakrishna: “Just take the case of the ocean. It is a wide and almost infinite expanse of water. But owing to special causes, in special parts of this wide sea, the water becomes congealed into ice. When reduced to ice it can be easily manipulated and applied to special uses. An incarnation is something like that. Like that infinite expanse of water, there is the Infinite Power, immanent in matter and mind, but for some special purposes, in special regions, a portion of that Infinite Power, as it were, assumes a tangible shape in history, that is what you call a great man.
But he is, properly speaking, a local manifestation of the all-pervading Divine Power; in other words, an incarnation of God. The greatness of great men is essentially the manifestation of Divine Energy.” (Paramahansa Ramakrishna in Swami Prabhavananda, First Meetings with Sri Ramakrishna. Madras: Sri Ramakrishna Math, 1987, 106-7.)