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Pointing Out … Is Separating In!?
I like to have an honest gathering of perceptions on this subject. For myself I have grown into an absolute desire to interact with people … preferably people who have developed to a level to “look beyond” the common “human” understanding.
So please feel encouraged to speak up. In this thread there is No wrong, just bravery and space to express.
Thank you for your contribution. 🌈🙏💝
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I will go first … dive deeper into the subject “pointing out” in relation to “separation in”.
So to grow an understanding we could best start with All Light consciousness holds energy and as such manifests into matter. Let’s keep it simple as in …
All is Energy and every part of God is Self Expressing, while equally Self Observing in the Now moment when Receiving Self Reflection as Love.
When I refer to the very energy of “pointing out”, I know this energy as a lower energy and not a higher one. Why? Because the pointing part in combination with the out part refers to an observation of “dislike” at the mildest! Does is not?
Seldom I notice people “pointing out” in a manner of admiration … and if they do “it” holds an energy of “identification” of lack in their own “body” (in the largest possible sense).
That’s why I have Become aware that every form of “pointing out” in a sense is creating a “lack” inside and as such a “separation” of self with Self … preventing Oneness and Abundance!
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Nice new thread, Ralph! I’m going to have to ponder and see if I can unravel it a bit in my head… this will require more than just a quick read and response.😻
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While I hope people read the stuff I write hahahaha, the questions I send out into the collective consciousness … I am pulling myself always further into the “common” unknown.
One of the most fascinating discoveries I gained a while back, is looking at yourself “the other way around”!!
Let me give an example as words are limiting (and English even more for me personal 😉). So the first example came with a clarity I had since December 21st and some major events and shifts. In summary it all was around a (personal) desire to ascend and with that my determination to quit and eliminate all “negative attachments” I had, invisible possibly pre-birth agreed to.
I choose the moment of the 21st, made all preparations and worked myself towards this clearance, my new contract enabling myself to fligh high, merging with my Higher Self, walking through an invisible “door, obstacle, border”.
Much happened since then, but the most remarkable was the “fact” that ascending occurs instantly with descending!! Many “humans” don’t realize who they are and that in itself is the “obstacle”, but equally the “construct” to even experience a “human individual linear 3D life”. It isn’t true!!! It neither is All false, it is just part of a creation within One and equally All.
So as long as people self identify with the concept of ascension as a current “form” of being “lower”, they are creating a hierarchal construct of “higher” outside the “form” they self identify with!! … for many this is the “human” physical body.
One last thing on the ascension and descension. It always just IS, only you yourself in your current state of self awareness who sees, feels and perceives “levels” of small or major shifts. At times “we” perceive them “collectively”, is a “higher” awareness of Oneness.
Back to looking at yourself the other way around. In stead of the “small, separation, lower” way outside In … looking for “proof” of being right, holding “higher truth” awareness than others … or in other words the “human sapiens” way … controlling, protecting, holding on to linear past and self space ego demands …
dare to step in to Being One and Feeling All.When you know All is “just” energy, you should also know you hold the centre of your energy, while creating a universe and multi-verse around you!!
You are Not solid … Not is your “body”!!! You are in a “higher fact” (within All awareness) constantly re-creating yourself around your Self awareness (your Akash) grounded in “human”.
A “human” has more in common with a river than a “solid” element like a static perceived rock or cristal. You in your current “human” body (which is an intersection of many different bodies overlapping) are constantly pulling in new fresh “water”, while allowing former “water” to flow though you.
From a distance you perceive yourself as a “river” body, while from any point closer you are “just” a portal receiving, holding, letting go, feeling and observing (vortex – energy awareness).I hope people will “tune in” to the energy this message carries. Personally I would love to have a little conversation around it. If not I still hope to have challenged people to “look” different inside and outside their current awareness.
Much love as always and thanks again for allowing me to express myself 💓💞💕
Ralph
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Hi Ralph,
Thank you for these Luminous thoughts!I’m truly enjoying (finally!) getting to read people freely expressing themselves about this kind of things… I hadn’t quite realized how much I missed that in my life. Anyways, thanks to all of you here for allowing and doing this!
I can definitely relate to these simultaneous and ever-present Ascension and Descension and to the “levels” being mostly illusory. It often feels to me like the only “trigger” is how I perceive (and thus create!) myself at a given time. I’ve come to see this Ascension process in a whole as being a lot more fluid than made of precise events. I even think that we sometimes forget to keep Descending and find ourselves (partially?) Ascended for a bit… without even realizing it.
I also very much agree with the importance of Being rather than controlling/trying/reaching for/holding, although I do not always make that inner switch easily nor quickly… It either works spontaneously or requires me to release quite a lot of remaining 3D-stuff, depending on the occasion. I’m very open to any spirituals tips some of you may have in that regard, by the way!
Also, while Being is an action (in my view, at least ^^) involving Consciousness itself, it doesn’t seem to require us to Do anything… and yet we ARE. This, I find difficult to comprehend while being my 3D “ego self” and perfectly obvious when I get to take a “bath” in 5D. Wonders of the Path, I guess !
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Hi Julien,
You are very correct about the liberating feeling one can have for just being able to express their most inner self and truth. Equally just the awareness to be observed for who you are, rather than “tagged” for the person you have sort of “played” on many occasions .. especially among family, friends and colleagues.
We should get rid of all the resumes in the outside world that drag our past false selves around everywhere. At least here in the forum we don’t do that … we don’t need it .. hence the honest and liberating atmosphere.
do not always make that inner switch easily nor quickly… It either works spontaneously or requires me to release quite a lot of remaining 3D-stuff, depending on the occasion
This is very normal I guess. We have to remind ourselves we are unlearning automatic life long trained behavior. Equally “everyone” out there is doing it, we just picked up a bad habit. That’s why we break the reaction chain, which from us … on forward creates a giant ripple effect … if not from our passive way of being rather than reacting to emotions … maybe even once in a while we put in some extra compassion, carring and forgiveness!?
Being in stillness already holds so much more Light than the everage actions on this planet, you could literally Light up the whole of Gaia. Good to know, isn’t it. You can’t fail or do anything wrong … unlike the 3D false teachings.
Good to have you here Julien. Love and free hugs 💕🌈
Ralph
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Hi!
What an interesting question, thanks a lot for raising it! 🙂In my own relation to “pointing out” (in the sense of defining, pinpointing, underlining), I feel like it is indeed a separating experience, in that it is brought into being not only by awareness of that which is pointed out, but also by some dual thinking about this object (this and not that, it and not me, etc). It feels to me like elaborating upon the initial awareness and associated discernment and making it into more of a thought-made thing. It may indeed happen more frequently when I “dislike” something and nevertheless cling to it… I do very much notice a tension arising from this identifying description, which is absent from the awareness itself.
On the other hand, in my experience, conscious pointing out can also lead to realization, when it brings to awareness something that remained hidden up to then. In that it’s sort of bringing a dissonance to the forefront of awareness, separating it from the rest of the habitual thoughts…I’m not quite sure whether you meant it like that or in more of a conversational meaning.
I’ve clearly been getting a lot more uncomfortable when it comes to pointing out negative things to others and talking negatively about various subjects or people in the last few years. A few friends, some of them with no spiritual practice or inclination, noticed the same reluctance to engage in “negative chat” recently and described it as a fast transformation, which I found really interesting in the context of Ascension!I can indeed see a connection between it and “separating in”, within my own spiritual practice. It actually feels related to something I’ve been musing about lately, namely whether my practices really reflected my immanent viewpoint.
It’s my belief (and kind of blind faith to be frank) that All is One, meaning that we all exist within an immanent Unity consciousness. I’ve had various temporary experiences that sure felt like it, but well… color me a faithful skeptic, more interested in experiential realization of Oneness than in a firm belief in it, if that makes any sense.
However I also find myself frequently trying to “reach out”, especially when it comes to Higher Dimensions/Selves/Beings/concepts. I’ve always related to these as being of a transcendental nature, outside of the (3D) world and even of myself. It feels like somehow my intellectual knowledge and mental description of them (my “pointing out”) isn’t very conducive to Unity. It somehow separates the immanent Unity into a Me/It duality most of the time and feels like “resonating and aligning with” rather than “being”.
On the other hand some of my most amazing meditative experiences come from truly embodying and Being some given Divine Qualities while practicing Self-Awareness during meditation, where it truly feels as “being from within” and not as “pointing out and reaching”.
It seems like my point of view can go from one viewpoint to the other pretty fast in some cases… which I’ve come to know as my inner “duality pending review” signal ^^
I’d be very interested in hearing your thoughts and feelings about this, if it somehow relates to what you meant!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Somewhat later:
Wow! I started writing this message around midday, saved it with the idea of proofreading and posting later… and came back to see your last message, addressing a topic I find quite similar ! Very interesting 🙏-
Hello Julian,
Thank you so much for participating. This for me is much more important than a consensus of some sort to be right. So just wanted to give you this feedback first.
I do hope you triggered others to share their angle as well. You have some very interesting viewpoints I surely will respond to a little later on. Nice to have another active participant here in the forum.
Talk to you soon 🙏🤗🌈
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I do realize my English versions of expressing myself isn’t always easy to comprehend lol 😂. That’s why I feel blessed and grateful to find messages that hold the same truth, while expressing it in a different manner …
Have you ever thought that you are a being of expression? You are a being of receiving; you are a being of flow. One of your main purposes in existence upon the Earth is to be consciously aware of the energy flowing from your being and what you are creating with it. It is to be consciously aware of what you are receiving, what you are bringing and drawing into your body, being, soul, chakras, thoughts, emotions, every aspect of your being and your reality. It is your mission and purpose to be aware of this flow and how you are in the centre of this flow.
This is what I like to express … empower yourself by stepping into your Creator Self … Being it … and from there allow a “descending” process to flow through you. This way you step into the “ascended” version of yourself primarily, while occasionally are reminded of “lower” lessons within the full “human universalis” experience.
Much easier than constantly trying to lift yourself up, be worthy without knowing where to look, what to do or not, how to feel or don’t, how to look for the hidden tools inside.
Much love as always 💕💞💓😘🌈
Ralph
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Hi Ralph,
I feel that your way of expressing yourself is clear and intuitive on the contrary! I very much enjoying reading other people expressing their own insights and first person experiences along their Path, in their own way. My heartfelt gratitude to you for doing so publicly, much as Steve has been doing in his own beautiful and very informative fashion!
That’s a beautiful channeling, and one I strongly resonate with as well.
It indeed really feels that way to me when I’m sufficiently self-aware to notice it : being in a flow of consciousness and shaping it as an act of co-Creation of myself and reality, through my awareness and “gentle cultivation” of it.Interestingly, I can also see how I used this same process to hold on to the illusion of separation and suffering for a long time, and still do to some extent.
I really “got this” (in an experiential knowledge sense, per Steve’s nomenclature) when I learned about and started “investigating” Dependent Origination. It is a Buddhist concept which describes something very similar to this “flow shaping” through conscious receiving and expression, although from a largely different and phenomenological perspective.
It turned out to be my “practice [which] allows me to really acknowledge myself as an anchor of the Creator’s energy” and I’m getting more and more appreciative of it as my understanding deepens and gets more intimate.
Because of this and of how insightful it’s been to me, I’d really like to present it to readers, from my own point of view. I’ve thus started writing something about it recently, but it got quite lengthy in the process… soon (oh, dreaded “soon” ^^) maybe!in Joy and Gratitude,
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Hi Julien,
You carry a very “familiar and pleasant” energy signature. While I write these words to know them as trustworthy, I can tell you equally, I have never written something like that to anyone … which makes it even more “strange”.
The fact is, I tune in to my “personal” moments with my surroundings. These forum “expressions” are very “real” and dear to me and just as close as physical friends and people around me. What I try to say is … each and every person here I just “know” through reading, observing and interacting … becomes a part of me, just as the “channeled” extraterrestrials, ascended masters and angels have become.
Your interactions and responses Lucien therefore “feel” in tune with my current and equally my past … they feel aligned. Thanks for this “new” experience hahahaha
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It indeed really feels that way to me when I’m sufficiently self-aware to notice it : being in a flow of consciousness and shaping it as an act of co-Creation of myself and reality, through my awareness and “gentle cultivation” of it.
Perfectly formulated and very similar to the way I “try to remain” constantly within the (K)Now … living … breathing.
I salute you from the Netherlands … remember my many joyful holidays spending in the South of France ☺️
Talk to you soon. Take care my friend 💓🌈🤗
Ralph
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I truly apologize for the repeating typos around your name Julien (~Lucien~) Don’t have an explanation for it … but I do have memory of being wrongly called out myself.
So I feel a sense of shame … having done so myself twice already. I know for a personal fact that I held “judgement” towards people pronouncing my name incorrect … equally a sense of not being taken seriously or not “important” … hence the “guilty, shameful” feeling I guess.
Anyway just observed it, disliked it and am part of accepting it.
If you can ignore it, I’ll try to forgive myself 😉🙏
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I’ve had to let go of caring what people call me or how they pronounce “Viel.” Also, frequently misspelling “Catherine” as one of the other variations. As long as it’s not a legal document, it doesn’t matter.
I get called Cathy by very old friends and remaining family, Cat by former coworkers…and sometimes with nonnative English speakers, the charming pronunciation “Cat-trinn.” It’s all fine!
Our family’s preferred pronunciation for surname is “veel” or as I sometimes say, you know, like veal scalloppini. 🤓
Love,
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That’s lovely, Ralph!
I’m really “surprised” myself at having such a relaxed and pleasant time interacting with you, as I tend to be more of a distant introvert usually… It does feel very familiar and easy talking with you for some reason 🙏Don’t worry about the typos, I really don’t mind being called whatever comes out and am not very attached to names in general. I also happen to have a fairly common first name as my last name, so I’m very used to it anyway 😄
Please don’t feel bad about it, I actually found it quite funny both times!
By the way Lucien has become a pretty rare name in France but it wouldn’t so bad to be called “Light”I’ve only been to the Netherlands once and must confess that it was on a quite intoxicated stay in Amsterdam back in my late teens… not a very spiritual event I’m afraid 😅
It’s much nicer to have a new and pleasant vibe to associate with your country!I’m really glad and grateful I finally joined you all, here at GAoG 🤗
By the way, are you still hosting RingCentral talks on Fridays? I’m not quite sure yet that I’ll be able to join this week but am definitely considering it!
in Joyful Friendship,
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Hi Julien (yes I did it .. no typo hahaha)
Thanks for your understanding response. Helps me a lot to get past the “error” and the corresponding feelings.
Yes we still do the Ring central every week and currently it is for no special reason scheduled for each Friday. It would be great if you would join. So please try (or and maybe equally join MeWe so we could chat … many options to get this spiritual vibe into an actual collective one 😂)
Still wish also others reading this are slowly drawn towards trying it out sometime?!
I live in the South of the Netherlands near the German border. Also it seems my father’s roots have been traced back to France (aristocrats hahahaha 😂) Maybe in a past life I lost my head there. French was my first latin based language and it never really lifted off, just as Spanish later on didn’t.
Anyway glad you joined Julien and you feel comfortable and at ease here.
Much love and hugs from within the same timezone hahaha 🤗
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I have photos of my ancestors taken from oil paintings circa 1800 and they look either prosperous merchant class, or aristocracy. From the Alsace-Lorraine region. That’s my dad’s side, the Viel line. The weird thing is, the man’s portrait has eerie facial similarities to my dad and even to me.🙀
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I used to call myself an introvert too, Julien, but I think a lot of us are having to climb off that bus in order to catch the express to What’s Up Next. Not that quiet time goes away…I just find myself much more willing to interact and as Ralph noted, open up and share, than my previous entrenched inclination.
I’m calling it a good thing, since I still assign values to such things.
Love,
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I know this is all serious stuff we’re talking about here, but I just have to say I’m really having fun reading all these expressive posts. 😻
Thank you!
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And by the way I hope to visit Europe someday… and the rest of the world… The farthest from California I’ve ever traveled has been the East Coast and Canada and Mexico and that was all many, many years ago, and I scarcely remember the trips. I adore the idea of river cruises (like with the Viking Cruises company). Perhaps on Nova Gaia there will be amazing modes of transport that we just dream up and they instantly become reality.🪶🚀-
I share your dream for traveling and visiting many familiar and unfamiliar places … and possibly connecting and meeting with you all. In my New World there is an open invitation for all you guys, to come and visit me wherever I am. 🥰💓💕💞🌍🌈
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It will be wonderful for us all to meet in real life! May it be sooner rather than later. When CA isn’t in drought or burning up, it’s quite lovely here. And maybe with abundance for all, everyone can put up at one of the excellent resorts nearby…on the beach, sunset horseback rides, visiting the organic gardens…
Love,
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Hi readers and friends,
I strongly resonated with Peggy Black’s ‘team’s last message and especially with the quote below!
The important thing is that you need to experience the feelings of being alive.
We observe that most humans live from their beliefs, their thoughts, their concepts of what it means to be alive. So we are suggesting that you allow yourself to experience each moment, without the trappings of your mind, or thoughts of should and shouldn’t.
Just be in the moment, be in the now. Whatever you are doing bring your full attention to that moment. Allow yourself to feel the experience of washing the dishes, driving your automobile, doing your work without being in the mind. The contents of the mind will always distract you from the now, from the moment.
It is in the moment fully experienced that you create. Your focused attention on what you are experiencing is your true power.
Peggy Black and the ‘team’ ~ Now is the Portal ~ https://goldenageofgaia.com/2021/06/19/peggy-black-and-the-team-now-is-the-portal/
This is what I really like to focus upon, as much as I can: being as an active process of sustained Awareness in the Now, experiencing all that I can without grasping it with my mind.
I’ve had such a simple but profound change of perspective since I really chose to follow these kind of teachings, it’s frankly amazing.in Loving Kindness,
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The Now seems to have all the answers, or maybe it just does away with the questions. Because asking a question implies a future.
Always happiest when not thinking, which happens in the blessed Now. When I need someone to remind me how to do it, I just check in with my cats. They’re never anywhere but Now.
Love,
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