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  • This topic has 13 replies, 5 voices, and was last updated 5 years ago by Catherine Viel.
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    • March 27, 2021 at 10:39 AM #319318
      Thomas Njord
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      My wife just got in the car to go get her first of the two shots. She works for the state health department, is a veteran, has a couple college degrees and is completely programmed. I don’t want to sound like that’s bad, or less than, or I am better than – I’m just giving readers an idea of her personality. I told her the vaccine is a bio-weapon, and it does absolutely nothing to prevent disease. She said it’s not a bio-weapon and is perfectly safe. I told her it’s an mRNA gene modifier, and she’ll be a GMO. I asked her if she’s done her research, and she said she has and this is what she wants to do. She is traveling to Michigan to visit her elderly mother in May and doesn’t want to be contagious and make her sick with covid. She unfortunately believes all the propaganda, and I can see how it’s hard for her to see or listen to anything different since she hears about it everyday at work.

      So off she goes. I am not her keeper or her boss, and she is sovereign just as I am and is free to make her own choices. I believe I am being selfish if I try to persuade her, or to manipulate her to make the choice I want her to make. I don’t know where her soul is on her soul path/journey. I know in my heart her soul knows what soul wants and what soul is doing. Her soul may very well not be ready for ascension. Her soul may very well need more spiritual growth on other third dimensional worlds. I’m ok with that, because I know she is not her body, as I am not my body. I also know that there is also a chance for change, for an awakening, that the jab is not a guaranteed death warrant, though I do believe it’s nefarious and mostly lethal. Maybe she will be part of the fortunate ones who received the jab and got the harmless saline jab, maybe her body will cope with it and not die, maybe she’ll wake up at some point and hopefully get in a med bed to undo the jabs harmful effects.

      So, all I can do is support her.

      Is anyone else here going through something similar?

    • March 27, 2021 at 11:26 AM #319319
      Catherine Viel
      Moderator

      Oh Thomas, I so feel for you. Thank you SO MUCH for sharing at such depth about this.

      It helps me realize from the “pro-vax” standpoint what these folks are thinking and reasoning and what they’re probably basing their choices on. A dear friend wants to go visit his soon to be born grandchild and believes he’ll now be “safe” because of vax. Even him knowing before he got it that the jab doesn’t prevent the spread of covid and doesn’t keep him from getting it to begin with…he STILL thinks it’s wise. He’s utterly brainwashed.

      The global machine pushing the vax agenda is ubiquitous and pernicious. I think we’re often called “the strongest of the strong” by channels in part because, even surrounded by the disinformation, we hold our knowledge and believe our own counsel before the seemingly entire world arrayed against “our side.”

      Everything you said about your wife’s soul knowing its path, and maybe she’ll be fine (I hope the majority WILL be fine), or failing that, a speedy med bed rollout…and you might want to persuade her, but “shouldn’t try” other than presenting your views, which you have…

      I hope others with close family electing to get the jab speak up here. I know without doubt many must be experiencing similar scenarios at home.

      I do not personally know anyone, or even a friend of a friend kind of thing or community member, being injured or dying from it. Given that vax injuries / deaths usually aren’t being reported as such, though, who knows what’s really happening?

      Love to all. Love and strength.
      💓💞🌈

    • March 27, 2021 at 12:57 PM #319321
      OneRayLove
      Participant

      Dear Thomas,

      Thank you very much for sharing this very difficult Light worker dilemma. Let me start with the fact I send you strength, confidence and the usual three higher vibrations … unconditional acceptance, forgiveness and love.

      Sounds like your story is very similar to Katerina’s one. I shared my view here in case you missed it.

      Having said that, I like you to connect to the “wisdom” I’ll share with you now. If this information is meant for you and others to be found and considered thrust worthy .. so it shall be.

      This knowledge is not to be understood with an unawakened mind. You have to risen above a sole material reality. My view is you have. Your human individual self currently has a hard time, because you know of a Higher Truth. You life beyond the sole 3D level. Your awareness is multi Dimensional. That’s why you can find your strength in the knowing, your wife and others are optimally guided according to their free will … and in their soul’s best interest.

      You also know all is Light Frequency and everyone’s body is centered around their heart core. You have risen your frequency beyond the “conditional love” 3D separation, your wife is much more grounded in this reality still.

      Therefore the two of you are in a sense out of alignment. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing!!! The higher love is pulling up the “lower” one. Just as you hold on to her, she is holding on to other loved ones.

      From an individual point of view, this can be devastating and utterly heartbreaking. Because we as light workers can’t save, rescue or force no one! We have the highest challenge to surrender, accept and trust.

      Please find some strength in the fact, everyone is in reality a master, creating their own reality and attracting their lessons constantly. It matters not if they think they are mortals and 3D is real. It matters not if they even believe in God. They still are a multi Dimensional God spark creating their reality universe around their soul core.

      Do you see how they just can be in a perfect save and balanced environment they “believe” in!?
      It’s when inner and outer influence start to interfere … entering and overlapping their current Reality frequency band … they feel a shift. This will cause a heart opening eventually. Then they too will start their rollercoaster awakening. Most probably in a turbo speed compared to our ones. When this happens, we are ready to assist. Helping them with trust to proceed through the emotional purging process.

      They in their turn will pull many more resilient souls with them. This is when all the dominos will start to fall. This is when the true “pandemic” will spread the Earth .. a Light and Love pandemic … the Tsunami of Love. It will sweep away all the remainder of the old.

      Equally those that can’t build their inner Light, will be better of when they truly reached the max of their current capacity. Equally wish them all the compassion you can offer.

      Again much strength and confidence in these challenging times. I send you Light and Love, just as many beings and angels, guiding you daily on this most challenging mission.

      Always remember. You never are challenged for a job you aren’t up to! You can do this and your not alone.

      Much love 💞💓💖

      Ralph

    • March 27, 2021 at 1:46 PM #319322
      Catherine Viel
      Moderator

      Lovely, Ralph. 🙏👏💓💞💓💞😘

      • March 27, 2021 at 1:56 PM #319323
        OneRayLove
        Participant

        Thanks Catherine 😘 Guess you feel the “truth” it holds. Very pleased you do. Hope others are finding some courage or healing light in it as well.

        Love you😘

    • March 27, 2021 at 3:15 PM #319324
      MurrietaLight
      Participant

      Here’s my input from immense amounts of reading on the covid subject. The harmful effects of this vaccine have been neutralized by our galactic friends. I firmly believe this as my sources are impeccable.

      So, it now becomes a matter of what we individually choose to do. Either way, we will not be harmed by the vaccine. I choose not to take it because I take am taking medication that already affects my immune system, and I will not willingly add to any potential problems with my immune system.

    • March 27, 2021 at 4:27 PM #319325
      Suzanne Maresca
      Keymaster

      Thomas,
      Your post is inspirational, and a beautiful demonstration of how to approach the choices of our loved ones when they’re not in alignment with our own. I relate to all you’ve written because a close friend just got her first Moderna jab two days ago. That’s the DNA-altering one that sometimes kills on the 2nd dose.

      For me, it’s been a gradual process of non-attachment over the past year with her. The first time we went to her house after the initial panicked shouts of, “Pandemic!”, she literally attacked my daughter for stepping towards her for a hug. “Don’t you DARE give me those puppy-dog eyes when I can’t even hug my own son!” It was an uncomfortable visit. While things have gotten more relaxed, she washes all her groceries when she gets home. She thinks masks are polite and effective…and it makes me sad that someone I love has been so thoroughly owned by the msm lies.

      AND…I admit feeling dismissed that she didn’t even want to hear what I had to say about it.

      But I agree, her choices aren’t my business. I pray that all vaccines truly are neutralized and made harmless. It’s hard for me to overlook willful ignorance, though, even if everyone turns out to be just fine. Thanks for the share, and blessings for your journey.

    • March 28, 2021 at 9:38 AM #319347
      Thomas Njord
      Participant

      Thank you everyone for the heartfelt and loving replies. This really is a remarkable journey we’re on, and how Mother/Creators Divine Plan is playing out. I love my wife’s person, and I love her soul equally as much. I do know that there’s nothing in Mothers Plan that I, nor any of us, can’t handle. Things may happen that my ego may not understand or like, but my soul knows all is good. Ralph, your loving reply glows, thank you.

      I’ve read more than one channeling about our star families reducing and neutralizing harmful effects of the vaccine, but that it couldn’t be made harmless as the baddies would have picked up on it. It seems to me that only people with other serious underlying health problems are succumbing to direct effects of the jab. Like they were heading out anyway, and their soul chose the jab knowing that soul could abandon the body quickly. Along these lines is the still unknown delayed gene modification effects. It’s my understanding that DNA changes don’t happen immediately. Magenta Pixie talks about this in metaphor in her latest video titled “Black Flame – Black Crystal Shield”. It’s a good listen, and she talks about how people who do end up with hijacked DNA will radiate rogue energies that could have a negative effect on those of higher vibrations, but she talks about one of many methods that we can each do to protect ourselves from rogue energies. Still tho, it’s my understanding that those who already are of a higher vibration that elect to get the jab will not have any DNA modification, and it may only happen to those who live a low vibration that get the jab.

      It’s quite a marvelous time to be alive. I used to think that death was terrible, especially the ones that seem untimely, like accidental deaths of young people. I have such a new view and take on death as it’s just another part of the cycle of the temporary experience that an immortal and eternal soul chose to have. Despite all the craziness in the world, I am thinking (most of the time) how wonderful life is, how much good is happening, how many children have been rescued, how many good loving people there are on the planet. And I find myself existing in this new reality without (most of the time) needing to intentionally focus or think about positive things – I’m thinking and living more positively without trying. The negative still sneaks in there, but it seems to be a little less and less as each day passes. Hurray high vibrational energies and love from Mother, the angelic realm and star families.

      And hurray to GAoG and all of you on this forum, my new friends who I can talk to about such things. Much love to all of you. 💖

    • March 28, 2021 at 11:22 AM #319350
      Catherine Viel
      Moderator

      Getting teary here, Thomas…in a good way.

      I watched about half the Magenta Pixie video and will pick up the rest probably today. I was going to mention it and am so glad you’ve already seen it! My opinion is it’s unnecessarily long and wordy, BUT very good info. She’s speaking in code via a “story” so maybe it has to be long and convoluted.

      Everything you said in your second, as well as first, post here so resonates with me. And I liked your description of Ralph’s reply that it glows. It does indeed!

      As you and others note, the jab is supposed to have had its harmful effects greatly reduced…which to me doesn’t quite jibe with the resultant injuries and deaths, oftentimes in “perfectly healthy” younger people. (Although as you said, indeed many deaths are elders whose souls might be ready to mosey on, and might be grabbing the “quick out”!)

      Since I’m still pretty darned dualistic, I want it to be one or the other. Either the jab is “mostly harmless” and “these folks’ soul contracts meant they were ready to go at that time, regardless…” OR the jab is deadly despite celestial assurances to the contrary, and soul choices are being overridden by the dark agenda.

      Since I doubt we can know while we’re still in the 3D here and now…I’ll just have to be intermittently frustrated by being kept in the dark, I reckon.

      I’m going to repeat your concluding words because I so agree, and couldn’t have put it better myself. 😻

      Despite all the craziness in the world, I am thinking (most of the time) how wonderful life is, how much good is happening, how many children have been rescued, how many good loving people there are on the planet. And I find myself existing in this new reality without (most of the time) needing to intentionally focus or think about positive things – I’m thinking and living more positively without trying. The negative still sneaks in there, but it seems to be a little less and less as each day passes. Hurray high vibrational energies and love from Mother, the angelic realm and star families.

      And hurray to GAoG and all of you on this forum, my new friends who I can talk to about such things. Much love to all of you. 💖

      💓💞🌈

    • March 28, 2021 at 11:36 AM #319351
      Suzanne Maresca
      Keymaster

      Really beautiful connections here. I makes me long for some king of gathering. One where no one need worry about not having the resources to attend. Way back in 2012 when we thought we were pretty well-informed and the 2012 Scenario had the conference in Sedona…there were 300 people together of a loving and unity-minded nature. People wore their gathering finest and it was just so lovely.

      • March 28, 2021 at 1:49 PM #319352
        Catherine Viel
        Moderator

        I’ll be there. With bells on!

        • March 29, 2021 at 3:48 AM #319367
          OneRayLove
          Participant

          Jingle bells!? Hahaha 😹😜😻🤔

          • March 30, 2021 at 7:17 PM #319442
            Catherine Viel
            Moderator

            🎶🔔😘

    • March 29, 2021 at 5:01 AM #319370
      OneRayLove
      Participant

      Hello my lovely friends,

      I like to return to all involved here the love and gratitude given and shared. 🙏

      With all the beautiful uplifting energy in this thread, I had to re-appear, not so much for me as a person who is in an effort to minimize my ego self, but for the Light energy itself.

      All connected here might think they came here for a “problem” around the “V”, but ultimately discovered something else. They felt something inside and needed to express, while equally accurately BE heard … acknowledged, seen … for who they ARE!
      You see how this is the Higher Self stepping Up, nagging the inner lower and Become the main leading inhabitant inside your daily human being.

      Please look back and read carefully Thomas’s initiative post. It isn’t written in a sense of despair, neither in a cry for help or finding a solution for a perceived “problem”. I felt Thomas, you were present in your higher knowing, while troubled by your lower understanding and all the information trying to keep you there.

      In 3D reality there is a difference between data and information, where the latter always is a subset of the first. Information is related to a search, many times connected to a problem/solution brain construct.

      Beyond 3D we have a similar higher mirror of this construction. It is between Consciousness and Knowing, were the Knowing exists within the discernment subset of All consciousness. It isn’t constructed but real. It holds your soul core connection and is by free will design different and unique from All others.

      The bridge between those two can only be felt. The problem many have is the “former” information brought them all the way up to the current level of existence. Their “truth” expanded, altered and initiated a spiritual search. New revealing information and collective truths, became part of their driver.

      However the consciousness and knowing made all the alterations and allowed for the inner purging to occur. You see how the very information you held and hold as Truth, were only a “physical” expression in your awake state guiding you to understand yourself, your spirituality and the world around you!?
      Do you see your actual Truth has been built consciously around your Feeling into your Knowing.

      Now is a time/space to just keep your information as a souvenir, a tool that helped you to Become your current Higher Self. Letting go of all you are still claiming as your “truth” in reality is just a perception. It served it’s purpose, just as all other “truth perception” is guiding many searching in duality. It will help them to desire for an exit. Only spirituality can provide this … and the door is within them!

      When you “get” this like most of us do, you also Know they can only truly start this journey when they Feel they are ready.
      The former Light Worker driven by “truth” also has a challenge, to seed this whole planet in New. They are to transmute all information still grounded in “truth perception” into Trust and allow in to grow in Knowing … Self.

      Thank you all for allowing to express myself. I am honored to be part of this experience with you.

      Love you 💕💕💕

      Ralph

      Ps. English is a magic language. It is easily used to put a spell on yourself or others. However, when you know the strength it holds it is also very powerful to not only undo any spell, but empower yourself in an instant.

      Wisdom ~ Wishdom
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  • Beloved child, son of my heart, [Ascension, spiritual evolution] is only about love, about the many expressions, about the many forms.
  • And truly of anchoring and being nothing but the love, in intellect, in wisdom, in sharing, in adventure, in relationship.
  • It can only be [that way] when you continue to bring all adventures, all arguments, all explorations back to the love.
  • (The Divine Mother in a personal reading with Steve Beckow through Linda Dillon, April 30, 2019; also at http://goldenageofgaia.com/2019/06/01/the-divine-mother-it-is-all-a-journey-of-love/).

Do not Venture Where There is No Love

  • Do not venture where there is no love. Because, if there is no love, then there is no truth. And if there is no truth, there will not be peace and [peace], Sweet One, is the Plan.
  • (Archangel Michael in a  personal reading with Steve Beckow through Linda Dillon, June 17, 2020.)

Archangel Michael: Lead or Leave a Vacuum


If no [lightworker] steps forward into [leadership] ...

Archangel Michael: Do not Get Caught in the Drama of White Hats or Black Hats

  • Beloved ones, do not allow yourselves to be distracted, yes, by the chaos….
  • Do not get caught in the drama of white hats or black hats, or good guys or bad guys. All beings are birthed directly from the Heart of One…. (“Archangel Michael: Do not Get Caught in the Drama of White Hats or Black Hats,” Nov. 12, 2019; see here.

Archangel Gaia on Our Mission on Earth

  • Archangel Gaia said
  • “I am now telling you what your mission is on Earth – it is to be an angel on Earth.
  • “You do not have to change the people around you; you do not have to get involved in politics, or that kind of activity.
  • “What you are meant to do here as a lightworker is to anchor a certain vibration.”
  • (Gaia, ”Earth Speaks: Your Mission on Earth,” through Pamela Kribbe, March 13, 2022, at https://goldenageofgaia.com/2022/03/13/earth-speaks-your-mission-on-earth/.)

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Werner Erhard on Responsibility

“Responsibility begins with the willingness to take the stand that one is cause in the matter of one’s life. It is a declaration not an assertion, that is, it is a context from which one chooses to live. Responsibility is not burden, fault, praise, blame, credit, shame or guilt. In responsibility, there is no….”  (Read more…)

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Spiritual Experiences that Have Shaped My Life

Inner Realms Podcast, No. 9: Steve Beckow

An enjoyable discussion of spiritual experiences with Amin Jaberansari, from 2023

On a Personal Note

  • I’m neither qualified to be a spiritual teacher nor do I wish to be one.
  • I’m a writer who wishes to share his views with you on subjects of mutual interest and listen to yours as lightworker equals and spiritual adults.

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