(Continued from Part 1.)
SB: You know, I have to acknowledge that when a person is a channel and they receive information from the other side, it doesn’t mean you received information on everything. And it doesn’t necessarily sometimes mean that you understand the information you received.
So, please know that when I ask you these questions, Christina, I’m not expecting you to know everything. And please feel free to say if you don’t know it.
But you talked about the war between the sexes. Was this also programmed by off-planet species from a darker era, like the Anunnaki?
CM: I’m not quite sure. To be honest, I think it goes further back. And I think that this relates to something we were going to talk about anyway, which has to do with our origins here.
Because what I am being shown is that we’re 7 billion on the planet right now. There are 10 billion life streams that belong to Earth. So, there’s a lot of life streams here on this planet — out of the whole pot, a lot. And the planet apparently is only designed for 4 billion. So, you know, we’re really full right now. And I think we’ve all come in to do some basic karmic healing.
And my understanding is that this happened with the fall from grace. It could have happened in Atlantis. I’m not sure. I mean, it certainly was not helped by Atlantis! But I… I think it happened with the arrival of the laggards. (1)
And we were innocents. We were totally innocents here in the beginning. Anybody who is out there who feels that they are from the original creator race – and this is information that I have been receiving directly from Sanat Kumara – we started out as the most magnificently beautiful, harmonious, loving, gentle creatures imaginable. We were all expressions of God here. That was the plan. We all carry the imprint of the Divine.
And what happened is we were infected by negative energies. And we invited in some energies to heal them, and we underestimated the power. And we were literally infected – you could almost say like a virus – by negative thought patterns.
And then we started to accumulate karma out of that. And this happened about 6 million years ago. That’s how far back we’re discussing. It’s amazing. We’ve been accumulating karma for a very, very long time. And that’s what we’re cleaning out right now.
So, I just want to get that thought out to everybody, that within our DNA — and this is something else that I would ask everyone to, in meditation, to simply activate and remember – is a memory of a time on this planet of pure peace and harmony. And we were able to manifest whatever we wanted, whenever we needed it. And there was no conflict between the sexes.
And it was a time of intense and magnificent beauty. And we have that memory. And we can activate that, give everybody the confidence that we can achieve this again…. We are returning. The golden age of Gaia is a return to our original divine blueprint. Beautiful, isn’t it?
SB: Hmm. Yes, it’s very beautiful. I just want to assure our listeners that all the negative aliens like the Anunnaki as they were then, and others like them, are gone from the planet and cannot approach the planet, and that that is a feature of the law of free will. (Our free will, that is.)
We have free will and we don’t accept negative behavior on our planet anymore. So even though we’re talking about the Anunnaki from a long time ago, they aren’t around now, except those who are allied with the Galactic Federation.
Had you finished with that topic of the origins of humanity?
CM: Steve, I just want to say one thing. And that is, forget about the Anunnaki, forget about the Greys, forget about anything that physically is negative. What I’m discussing right now is negative thought forms.
CM: … that we in our minds have negativity. And this is what we are in the process of cleaning up. So that we can actually go back to our original purity of mind.
SB: Okay. Thank you for that.
SB: If you’re finished with what you wanted to convey that has been given to you about the origins of humanity, and I just want to check in with you that you are…?
SB: Okay. All right. Well then, why don’t we spend a little time talking about Ascension symptoms in connection to the karmic cleansing process, for ourselves and for the collective. Certainly we’ve been going through that for at least two years now!
What insights can you contribute to us to assist us to understand what we’re going through in that area, and how to work with it?
CM: That’s a big topic. And I’m not an expert on it. And I don’t suffer from too many Ascension symptoms myself, but I think that’s because I started doing my work so early on in my life. I started at 18.
And so I’ve been at it for 40 years, and it kind of got stretched out. And having said that, I’ve had some very, very intense experiences along the way cleaning out karmic baggage. And it still goes on.
But I think a lot of people are cleaning out a very long history in a very short period of time. And they may notice that they come in waves. It feels cyclical, or they have a wave pattern to them. You’re riding along fine and then all of a sudden, bammo, you know, you’re in this horrible loop.
And as I understand it, we’re dealing with short waves and long waves of this creation. And some of the waves that we set up for karmic cleaning go back thousands upon thousands of years. And it takes a long time and many embodiments for us to clean it up.
So sometimes all of a sudden, you’re cruising along beautifully, and you’ll get hit with a wave. God knows what the origins are! And it could not just be from past lives here on this Earth. It can also be from other lives in other dimensions.
In reality, we’re doing a massive cleaning out for everybody. And there are people who are not cleaning out. And so lightworkers are also taking on some of the work for others. And we volunteered to do that.
SB: I’m wondering, it is said that many lightworkers come from higher dimensions. And then people talk about those dimensions, and they could be the ninth, tenth, eleventh, twelfth. Now, do people from the ninth, tenth, eleventh and twelfth have karma?
CM: Well, I’m from the ninth, and I think I probably have a fair share of it! [laughs] I mean, I’ve been around here for thousands of lives, and I was a fallen angel! So I’m sure I spent many, many embodiments cleaning that out. I’m sure of it. I know that. So, it’s a complicated subject. And I don’t feel totally qualified to speak on that one.
SB: Well, why don’t we talk then about the different roles of the mystic lightworker and the activist. You have told me in other conversations that the mystic lightworkers are working invisibly and quietly on the inner planes, like yourself, for instance.
CM: Well, as I observe it, there are activist lightworkers, you being one of them, and then there are many, many lightworkers who work very quietly behind the scene. And they do a lot of work in meditative state and trance state. And they really work.
They’re working on the mind level. They’re working on the causal level. Because what we are looking at in the world is a reflection of the collective mind. It’s an after-effect, if you will. It’s a shadow. The origin of our disharmony is within the mind.
And so there are millions who are working invisibly, and they get no recognition, and they get no reward for this. It is their mission, to move very deeply within, and to look at the causes of disharmony, and to heal that at that level. And to bring forward new imaginings and new dreams that can be manifested on the planet. You know, it begins there.
And then there’ll be activists who also have to be working in the external world to manifest it, to anchor it.
So, as I see it, both are required. But I would just like to speak to all of those who feel like they do work behind the scenes. My own spirit said, “Just keep doing what you’re doing, Christina, because there’s not enough doing it and it’s necessary work. So, no, you are not an activist. We are going to keep you, you know, on the inner planes, and that’s your job.”
And so I just want to just offer that little bit of recognition for all of you out there who are doing work like that, and just to stress how absolutely vital it is. Because it really pierces the veil. Every time somebody does a shamanic journey it pokes through the veil and makes it weaker and weaker. Every time we go and clean up something on the astral plane, it’s lightening up the Earth.
So, it’s very valuable work. Both are required. Does that make sense?
SB: It does. And we also have crossovers, because my draw is very much to the mystical, but I also have a very strong sense that in this lifetime I’m meant not to be in a cave, but to be out there in society, working. So it’s a kind of a push-pull for me. Activism is what I’m supposed to be doing, but I waft back to the mystical quite a bit!
CM: Yeah. Absolutely. Yes. You wouldn’t be able to be the activist you are if you hadn’t had the mystical experience, and if you weren’t that at your core. And I think if so many lightworkers have had trouble being activists in previous lives, me being one of them, so I think when we signed up this time, we said, “That’s fine, but don’t put me on the front lines, in the public.” I don’t, you know, I just want to work behind the scenes.
SB: Right. You have done a lot of work with your dream state, in your dream state. What is the significance of our dream state from the point of view of the Ascension process and the cleansing of karma?
Can we all use it more productively? Is there something simple that you can suggest to our listeners?
CM: Well, let me back up and convey what my understanding of the value of the dream state is, because it’s something that really surprised me, when I discovered this through Rudolph Steiner and also through some other literature that I studied.
Cosmic law holds us accountable and responsible for everything that happens while we are in this dimension. And that includes our dream state. And that’s something that we’re not aware of. And that piece of education has been withheld from us.
So we don’t know how to use our dream state to improve our lives, if you will, and to use it in service. And what happens — but, by the way, when we are undergoing our life review, (2) at the end, we are exposed to everything that we have done, not just in our waking state, but also in our dream state. So I think it’s a question of using our dream state a little more consciously.
That’s what our guardian angels are really here to do for us, is to help guide us during our dream state, to make sure that we don’t wander back to other embodiments where perhaps, you know, there was some mis-creation.
We have a tendency to do that sometimes. We get attracted back to more negative embodiments, and we don’t really want to go there.
So one thing to do is simply, as you fall asleep, speak to your guardian angels and make sure that they are protecting you, and just ask to be of the highest service in your sleep. And it’s as simple as that!
SB: Hmm. Very good. Well, I keep being told that we’re going in our dream state to Syria, to Iraq, in your case, I think, doing a lot of work in our dream state. And yet I don’t feel tired when I wake up.
Should I feel tired if I’m doing activist work in the dream state?
CM: [laughing] No, you should feel grateful! [laughs]
SB: [laughs] Okay! Is there one tool that you would give people to use, to those who haven’t the resources or time or money to invest in learning more advanced physical practices and techniques?
CM: I started working with the violet flame about six years ago, without knowing much about it, to be honest. But it really resonated for me. And I was working a lot with the CDs from Patricia Cota-Robles at the time.
And mantras — anything that you want to do with your I Am presence and the violet flame, and throwing your negativity into the violet flame and cleaning your body out at night before you go to bed — and
I can give a very simple exercise for that, by the way.
One mantra that I just love, and it’s very short and sweet, is simply this: Transmute, transmute, with violet fire, all causes and cores not of God’s desire. I am a being of cause alone. The cause is love, the sacred tone.
I have found that to be the most amazing mantra, as I go throughout my day. And if, I’m finding myself in a negative state, I sit down and I repeat that until it lifts. And it will lift. It will transform anything.
And getting in touch with your I Am presence, simply asking, “I wish to connect with my I Am presence,” can transform an awful lot.
If something has happened during the day, before you go to bed, just surround yourself with the violet fire and raise your arms to the sky and connect with St. Germain, and connect with the violet flame, and ask that your hands embody the purifying force, the violet flame, and run them over your body.
Run them down over your body. Then take your left hand and run it down over your right arm, from the shoulder on down. Take your right hand, run it down from your left shoulder down to your hand, and throw all of the residue periodically into the violet flame.
This will clean out eons worth of darkness, and you will find yourself becoming lighter and lighter, in time.
It’s as simple as that. It doesn’t have to be complicated. Not everybody has the time for that, you know, for the more complicated procedures.
Was that too fast?
SB: No, you know, it’s interesting you should say that, because back in the mid-eighties I was working with an imaginative practice of throwing all my cares into a bonfire, and had several powerful spiritual experiences as a result of that. So, I can certainly attest to that being powerful.
When you look back on your life, Christina, do you see phases? Have there been phases of your growth or your spiritual development?
CM: Yes. Absolutely.
SB: Can you discuss some of those with us?
CM: It seems to alternate between a very mystical life, where I’m very much in retreat, and then I move into a more active service. Or an application life, an application phase, where I lived an extremely mystical life for six years solid after my divorce.
I’m now in partnerships. And now I’m being required to apply all that I have learned during, you know, these mystical years. And now, I have to apply it on a day-to-day basis.
And my feeling is there is preparation going on and service is coming up next, service on a broader level. And we are prepared for these things. They’re not going to send us out there into the fray without adequate preparation.
CM: And sometimes they hold us back. You know, I have oftentimes felt held back while they were preparing, and cleaning out, if you will. It can be very frustrating for people who want to be of service.
SB: What do you mean, ‘held back’?
CM: Oh, it’s almost as if you’re just not quite ready, and the opportunities don’t present themselves. Or you make a step in that direction and the path feels too stony. It feels like there’s too many obstacles in the path. It doesn’t seem to manifest as easily as you would like it to. And sometimes that’s the signal that you’re still in your inner work, you still need to hang back and do your inner work.
SB: Speaking of your active phase, you’ve been a successful businesswoman, have you not?
CM: Yeah, I was, actually! [laughter]
It always astounds me when I look back on that! It’s like, how did I do that?
SB: How did you do that?
CM: I never felt comfortable in the role, but I did what I had to do.
CM: I was probably doing an awful lot of work in ways that I didn’t understand.
SB: Uh-hunh. I set out to be a successful academic, actually. And got just a little ways into it and realized it wasn’t what I wanted to do! It was just something I thought I should do, or had to do, or something.
SB: But yeah. It was holding me back, because the academic world was in the grips of paradigms like empirical materialism, which I just couldn’t work with.
CM: Well, you know, you’re in your ego until you’re 33. That’s the magical year.
SB: Yeah! Right. Yeah.
CM: Your ego is driving you. And you’re also doing what you’re conditioned to do by your society.
SB: Somehow it just seemed like an appropriate career path for me. But it wasn’t, really.
SB: You mentioned the full life review at the end of life. Now, I can just mention to listeners that that’s also called the Judgment, and that if they go to New Maps of Heaven, just enter that in your Google search engine with quotation marks around it, you can read about what the judgment is like.
It’s not the same as the really rapid full-life review that some people have just before death, where their whole life flashes before them. But it’s a much more rigorous examination of everything in one’s life, including everything that others thought or felt.
Do you have any more on that, Christina, that you’d like to share?
CM: Yeah, I remember once — and this was during my mystical years where I was given a life review. And I was working with a totem, an owl at the time — talk about rigorous! — and my owl said, “Would you like to see your lives?”
And apparently I’ve had somewhere between two thousand and three thousand — Archangel Michael won’t even tell me how many, but it’s a lot. And it was like a fast moving train… It was unbelievable.
It went through rapid fire, and I was given brief flickers of every life that I’ve had. And he said, “You’ve done it all, you’ve seen it all, you’ve been on both sides. You don’t need to look at it. Just know that there’s no room for judgment, because you’ve been everywhere.” You know, it was quite remarkable. But he was very merciful. And my understanding is the judgment is rigorous, but merciful.
SB: Yes. And you can also stop it if you need a rest. And you’re always attended by a guide who helps you through the experience, just as Archangel Michael did with you.
CM: Yeah. It’s interesting. You suddenly do realize, my God, I’ve had a white hat, a black hat, a gray hat… I’ve been on both sides, and, you know, who am I to judge?
SB: Right. Can we talk about your personal life, for a moment? [laughs]
CM: Yeah, sure. To a degree, but… [laughs]
SB: To a degree, right. No, this is not National Enquirer.
SB: But I’m curious to know if your children have psychic abilities, or if they feel drawn towards things like shamanism or mysticism?
CM: Okay. My children. My son is pure Pleiadian. My daughter is Venusian. And they are both star beings, and they have not been fully activated, but they absorb everything that I have to tell them. They would like a little more evidence sometimes. They get, you know, they get a little frustrated that there isn’t more concrete. My daughter’s a bit of a “Show me. I’m from Missouri. Show me!”
I think both of them would, in their souls, really love to have an encounter with their galactic star brothers and sisters. There’s a deep yearning in both of them. And there’s also a fear of disappointment. So they’re very cautious around this. And I think disappointment is a huge subject.
SB: Oh, I think it’s a huge subject for all of us, is it not?
SB: You remember a few disappointments that we’ve had as an organization.
And I’m surprised that not more people in the world are alive and awake to Ascension, but it doesn’t seem to be the case. It certainly isn’t something that’s magically caught on yet, although it’s spreading.
CM: Not on the personality level, or on the ego level, but on the soul level, and this is what we’re not privy to.
CM: We don’t know what’s going on with people.
SB: Yes. Lots of people would love to meet their twin flame in their physical life. Can you speak to what it’s like to meet your twin flame?
CM: Oh, wow. I had been told about my twin flame for years before I met him. And I was told I would know right away. And I… his name is Taka, and I met him in Sedona.
SB: At the conference. [The 2012 Scenario Conference.]
CM: At the conference. And I knew I was going to meet him there. I had a very good sense, because I had been told years ago by a famous psychic that I was going to take a very long trip and I was going to meet somebody who would have German origins who would not be of my group. And there he was. So I was aware right away that Taka was a very important person for me.
Taka was not as aware. He didn’t have half the same information. But I had been well prepared, and spirit had done a very good job with me in giving me all of the signals.
We had a very small window of time for this meeting to take place. We had literally one day. And I knew that day when I woke up and said, today’s the day. It’s got to happen today. And spirit arranged everything, so that we could meet. And we had an instantaneous recognition.
It was really profound. I’ve never experienced anything like that. It was as if every door opened up in my heart and my soul and went right to my core. It was extraordinary. And he was experiencing the same thing.
Now, having said that, I would also say that twin flames are challenging relationships. There’s a lot of light involved with them. And so, the light will go into every little nook and cranny of your psyche, and you can’t hide anything!
And that can be very uncomfortable. And this is why many twin flame relationships implode. They don’t last. Many twin flame relationships are too intense for people to handle. And this is, I think this has been talked about probably ad nauseum.
But we’re doing okay. And we have a lot of assistance. And we’re working through the intensity.
CM: It’s challenging. It’s also unbelievably rewarding.
SB: Um-hmm. Just to help anybody who was at the Sedona Conference to remember Taka, Taka graced us a number of times with music on his didgeridoo — to clean out the room, to set us up for the next experience. So if people remember the very long instrument, the didgeridoo that Taka played, it was quite remarkable.
Do you know if a lot of people are going to be meeting their twin flames? Is it an important part of light work in this particular lifetime?
CM: You know, my understanding is twin flames are being brought together more and more because they have very specific missions in terms of building Nova Earth. They create an energy field which is very, very large.
I was told years ago that the love that I would encounter in this relationship had the power of 100 drumming groups. They just said this is an enormous field. And we don’t have to do anything, we just sort of have to walk down the street and we create a love field around us.
So this is what twin flames will do. And they anchor the light net that is around Earth. They’re anchoring the grid at specific points.
And, of course, Taka and I go right, right back to the beginning. We’re both creator race. So, we planned this a very, very long time ago, that we would meet at this time and do this work together. This was in our contract. And that we would stay together. We won’t be separated again after this.
SB: Are you saying that you alone, walking down the street, would create one kind of field; Taka alone walking down the street would create another type of field. But when you’re together you create an altogether different kind of field, and an altogether stronger…?
SB: Is that the case?
CM: Yes. Yes.
SB: So, do you have a sense of what it is that happens when you’re with your twin flame that has that multiplier effect? Do you know?
CM: No! [laughs] I actually don’t! And I wish they would show that to me. I’ve seen videos on YouTube that describe and show what this field looks like, but I cannot say that this has been shown to me. I just know that I can feel within me that it’s very powerful.
And I know when we go out and do our road trip together, and we come back, we have a phenomenal amount of clearing that we have to do. So, something must be going on. We’re clearing at a very, very deep, collective level. I can feel that.
CM: By the way, for anybody that’s interested, Taka is going to be at the Joshua Tree gathering. (3) And so anyone who is going to go there will have the benefit of listening to his didgeridoo and his sound healing.
SB: Are you going to be at the Joshua Tree conference?
CM: Well, sure. Of course I’ll be there.
SB: I’m going to be there, and I want all the Sedona participants from last year to come along as well. I want to meet everybody again. I asked Linda if I could be permitted to walk up and down the aisle and just meet and greet. Because I really enjoyed Sedona.
CM: I think it’s going to be a huge gathering, to be honest. That’s my sense.
CM: I can’t see in numbers. It will be huge in its significance and its energy field.
CM: It will be a large gathering.
SB: Right. Yes. Absolutely. And of course I expect the reval before that. So there should be money in circulation to help people.
We’ve only got about three, probably two minutes left, Christina. How are you feeling about these times? How are you feeling about what’s happening right now, and where we’re headed in the near future?
CM: I think it’s a brilliant time. I was thinking about this the other day. When I don’t have a day that I’m full of self-pity, which is a trap that we all fall into once in a while, because we’re tired, I look on it, and I say, we have been asked to let go of all expectations of what is to come. You can think about that. You know, we had a lot of expectations last year, and they might have even interfered with certain things. We are now open, and yet we don’t know. And that is a perfect position for creation.
SB: How does that fit with the statement, often from Archangel Michael, that our anticipation, say, of the reval, or our anticipation of NESARA, or our anticipation of Disclosure helps bring it forward?
CM: Ah, because it raises our frequency level. You see, the dinar’s so brilliant! The dinar – I love this – has opened up our minds to start dreaming and imagining in a way that nothing else has, because we’re actually sitting down — Steve, you’re a perfect testimony for this — we’re sitting down, thinking, “What am I going to do with the money?”
CM: And we can dream big. And dream feeling is something that has occurred on this planet, and this is something that has to be brought back — our ability to dream.
SB: You bet! And I’m so glad that others have had the opportunity to meet you and know you as I know. As I said earlier in the program, you’re one of my favorite people on the planet. Thank you for coming on the show!
CM: Likewise Steve. [laughs] Thank you so much for having me.
SB: Okay. Bye for now.
(1) Allegedly a race of “laggards” was imported to Earth at one time as a further measure to dumb us down.
(2) There are two life reviews “at the end.” One is a very quick but comprehensive glimpse of our whole life, which occurs near or after the moment of passing. The second is a much more extensive review that occurs much later, after we’ve acclimatized to the other side. That’s called the “Judgment,” even though we only judge ourselves. That is done with the aid of our guides. See “At Some Point a Full Life Review Occurs,” at https://goldengaiadb.com/The_Borderlands_-_Awakening#At_Some_Point.2C_a_Full-Life_Review_Occurs and following.
On “The Judgment,” see https://goldengaiadb.com/The_Judgment and “The Judgment as Seen by Incarnate Observers,” at https://goldengaiadb.com/The_Judgment_%E2%80%93_As_Seen_by_Incarnate_Observers.
(3) I will be there as well. If it’s after the reval, probably many other editors will also be there.