We started this interview with a few questions about the number of views of I Know My Galactic Family is Here. Do You? [4.5 million overall, 3 million on Youtube. Youtube own’s count? 209, 773] and on the nearness of the Iraqi dinar re-evaluation and the Wanta-Reagan-Mitterand Protocol implementation.
Then we moved on to some of the persistent Ascension-related questions such as will we ascend on Dec. 21 or not? Will the sick be healed? What will be the fate of those who stay behind for parents or patients? Will all children ascend? Can one ascend later than Dec. 21? Why would people want to meet in conferences after Dec. 21? and more.
Archangel Michael needed to make some difficult distinctions such as that there is allowance for people who are ready to ascend in most ways but still possess anger or other negative emotions. They will exist for a short time on a 3D hologram until they are ready to ascend. And he said that sick patients will be healed and will ascend so doctors do not need to remain with them. Etc.
In addition to his talk the hosts and Linda held a roundtable discussion of many Ascension-related matters and that part of the hour and a half with an angel will be posted tomorrow. Thank you to Ellen who labored mightily through difficulties to get the transcript done.
To listen to the program itself, go here: https://www.blogtalkradio.com/inlight_radio/2012/11/20/an-hour-with-an-angel
An Hour with an Angel with Archangel Michael and a Roundtable, November 19, 2012
GD: Hello, and welcome to An Hour with an Angel, with Linda Dillon, the channel for the Council of Love and author of The Great Awakening, and Steve Beckow of the 2012 Scenario. It’s a pleasure to be with you. I’m GD.
Our guest today is Archangel Michael. And Steve will interview him for 45 minutes, and then we’ll follow with a roundtable discussion on what was shared, and Steve, Linda, Geoff and myself will be participating in that.
So with that, I’ll pass it on to you, Steve.
Steve Beckow: Thank you, Graham. And I’m looking forward to our show tonight. And welcome, Archangel Michael.
Archangel Michael: And welcome to you, dear friend, for I am Michael, warrior of peace, archangel of love, bringer of news, bringer of the new dawn in so many ways. And yes, there is a great deal for us to discuss this night, not only about your process of Ascension but of course about the collective process, and about some of the hindrances that appear on the horizon, which we of course will get into.
But first I ask you as we begin, as I often do, to ignite your blue flame of peace, to ignite the knowing of peace within your being, to ignite the love within your heart. Let the bright blue flame burn brightly, not only for you to see and to feel, but for all to see and feel, not only upon your plane of Gaia, not only within your dimensions, but throughout the galaxies and throughout the realms.
So dear friend, where do you wish to begin this day?
SB: Thank you, Lord. And I actually do wish to begin with three very quick questions, two of which are probably going to find their way into Cosmic Vision News.
The first question is, can you give us an update, please, on the number of views of I Know Our Galactic Family Is Here on YouTube, and then the total number, please?
AAM: Oh, it is several million now. It is over 3 million in terms of the YouTube, and it is about 4,500,000 in terms of total views.
SB: Okay. Well, thank you very much. We can only get that information from you.
Now, two questions from Geoffrey. Again, short answers are fine. Several news articles received on Sunday have indicated that a re-evaluation of the Iraqi Dinar is now underway and could be announced today, and perhaps even by the time this program airs.
Some sources have indicated that this is a scam, and others feel that it is a vehicle by which some of the Prosperity Funds may make it into the hands of good people.
Has a re-evaluation taken place? And if So is this also a tool for getting funds backed by precious metals out to people?
AAM: The re-evaluation of the Iraq Dinar as you well know has been underway for some time in terms of what you would think of as back-room discussions. The official re-evaluation has not taken place quite yet, but there are some very, can we say, high-level discussions about that going forth very quickly.
Yes, it is a way in which to have money into the hands of many who have trusted and who have undertaken this investment in order to have help for the lightwork and the lightholder community.
This situation is being pushed and being okayed by the highest levels of government, and is occurring at this time because of the re-election of Barack Obama. Now, also understand, though, there are many that are still involved in the economic controls and, can we say, terrorism, of the United States in particular, but international monetary [terrorism?] as well, against the Middle East. The heating up of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is also having an effect on delaying that ree-valuation being announced. But you can anticipate it very shortly.
SB: Thank you, Lord. There are some rumors circulating at this time about a series of financial protocols that have been called the Wanta-Reagan-Mitterand Protocols. At least one source is indicating that these Protocols are now being implemented and this will help to release global Prosperity Funds. Is there truth to the rumor that the Protocols are going to be implemented, and is there truth to the rumor that it will help with the Global Prosperity Funds?
AAM: Well, certainly the implementation of these Protocols would result in a lessening of financial stress, and the implementation of financial security for many. But think of those protocols in many ways as being akin to the discussions about the Dinar. Yes, we understand that they are completely different participants and principles, but it is actually part and parcel of the same undertaking.
So these principles and these Protocols are being discussed, but they have not yet been implemented.
SB: Thank you, Lord. Turning now to Ascension, which is really the topic of our interview today, the first question I wanted to ask you is it’s been asked before, but the question persists in the lightworker community. And I’d like a really clear and unequivocal answer to the question. And that is, will we ascend as a planet with all its inhabitants to the 5th dimension on December 21st, 2012, or will we not? Will something else happen?
AAM: Yes, you would like a very clear, unequivocal answer, would you not?
SB: I would, yes.
AAM: But as you know, I have been very hesitant not only in this forum but in other forums to give this answer. Let me put it this way. And I am not trying to avoid your question, but it is not as clear-cut as you are presenting.
Many are already ascending, and that floodgate, that portal is already open, and many, many, many are taking advantage of it. Hundreds of thousands now have taken advantage of it.
What you are doing and what many, particularly of the lightworker and lightholder community, have been stuck on is the event of December 21st, 2012. But Ascension, and the Ascension of Gaia with all upon her, is not simply a singular, one-day, one-minute, one second event.
Is this a benchmark? Is this a time when there is alignment, both cosmically, energetically, and in terms of Divine Plan where things are coming together, where spirit, being, form, matter, molecules, essence, Mother/Father One, humans, elementals and planet are coming together in order to shift from one reality to another? The answer is yes.
But — and I must add this but, even though many of you do not like to hear this word, and I certainly do not like or enjoy using it — you are thinking of this as an immediate snap for everybody concerned. As we have said, all are welcome, all are included in the plan; Gaia has not discounted any kingdom or any person, any human, hybrid, starseed, Earth-keeper; but not all are prepared to reset the clock, as it were, in that moment.
So is there the opportunity for others to take a slower route, to engage in a process that is more attuned to their own time schedule and what they consider reality? The question is open for discussion, and the answer is yes.
SB: Well, let me put it another way, Lord. I imagine that if people wake up on December 22nd and find that the Earth is still here in 3D, there will be a tremendous hue and cry, a lot of questioning saying, well, did it happen, or did it not? So is the Earth going to be here in 3D after December 21st?
AAM: Let me say this. The Earth is already not very well anchored in 3D. And so will it be anchored in 3D on December 21st, 2012? The answer is no. It will be anchored firmly and completely in the heart of the 5th dimension. Will it brush lightly in the fourth, not the third? Will it brush lightly into the 7th? The answer is yes. The anchoring of the planet at that time will be in the 5th dimension.
SB: If I was on planet Earth on December 22nd, and I asked this —
AAM: Which you will be!
SB: [laugh] Yes, of course. But would I see the 3rd dimension? Is there going to be anything to see in the 3rd dimension of Gaia on December 22nd?
AAM: This is a very important discussion. And I am excited and thrilled that you and all of you who are listening or listening after the fact, are prepared to have this discussion. So I want to be very clear. So let me back up.
What do you perceive? And I will answer my own question. What do you perceive as the 3rd dimension? What reality do you choose to create and experience? If you are anchored on Gaia and in your heart of love, then the answer is no, you will not have the experience or access to what we refer to as the old 3rd dimension, which is the dimension of lack, limitation, hatred, greed, control — you know the list is endless.
Will you have an experience of physicality? Yes, because that is one of the unique qualities about this particular Ascension process. It is unique throughout time and space, but it is also positioned in time and space to be a physical experience. Will the colors be brighter? Yes. Will you see more? Yes. Will you experience a difference in terms of how you feel and how you are perceiving your external world and Gaia, your community? Yes.
Now, let me add a proviso. If you are determined that you still are requiring [a 3D experience] in terms of your own soul journey, for a very brief period of time, there will be a window open — and this has been a part of our work – if you are choosing to still have partial, and I do mean partial, experiences of what you consider to be the 3rd dimension, then you can do so. But the reality is not going to be there. You will experience a hologram.
Now, I am talking about the portion of the human race — not those who absolutely refuse to go and therefore have chosen reassignment — that is ready to go, holding love, but still clinging to some false belief systems. Now, I do not mean the false belief systems that are of the lower vibration, such as control, greed, death, destruction, despair.
So there will be some who find themselves in an intermediary position. But for the majority of those who have said yes, you will find yourself in very rapid transition into the 5th dimension. And perhaps even higher, for some of you.
Now I have said that this is a process and not quite a snap. And what do we mean in terms of divine understanding when we say that? Because when we say snap, we mean that it is not completely instantaneous. So for example, there are many, many, many upon your planet who have no idea about such a shift occurring. We are not trying, nor do we wish to set up a situation where people wake up and feel that they are psychotic. So for them, there will be a transition, somewhat of an incubation, while they attune themselves to the new reality.
Now, by and large, that is not the people who are listening to this program tonight. However, there are also those who are still clinging — and we do include the lightholder, loveholder community who are still clinging to some fear, to some anger, to some reticence.
You need to let go of this, my friends. This is the last push. We have been flooding you with energy, but we cannot do this completely to you. This is a joint undertaking. This is the creative partnership.
When you have said, for example, if you wake up on the 22nd of December and it seems like you are in the same old same old, then you will be angry – then you WILL be angry, because you are holding onto anger. It has no place! It cannot exist, within your heart, within your being, within your essence, and it cannot exist in the air you breathe and the vibration of New Gaia, of Nova Earth.
So if you are holding on to it, if you are sitting there with your arms folded and saying, “If this doesn’t happen I am going to be furious,” I am begging you, let go of the fury. Let go of the fear. Let go of the reticence. This is a co-creation with you. It is the only reason you came to Earth at this time.
Have you done many miraculous, uplifting, wondrous things? Yes. But the reason you came was not only to witness, but to be part of this Ascension. So if there is any residue, now is the time to relinquish it. Torch it. Give it to St. Germain. Give it to me. Give it to the Mother, but let it go.
Now, I know what I have said has provoked many more questions, so I invite you, dear heart, to proceed.
SB: I’m sure you can see me scribbling those additional questions on my piece of paper, Lord.
Well, back in 2009 you said through Ronna Herman that
“We must clear 51% of our negative frequency patterns and attune our Energetic Signature to at least a portion of the lower sub-level frequencies of the Fifth Dimension in order to receive the Adamantine Particles of Creator Light, which are an integral part of the Metatronic Full Spectrum Light.” (1)
AAM: We have come a long way since that time. And now I truly am speaking to your audience, and mine — our magnificent platform has done tremendous work. So I am not going to say to you that it is the line in the sand of 51 percent versus 49 percent.
Do you need to hold as much high vibrational light as you possibly can? The answer is yes. And let me also explain why.
It is not just for you. This is a collective undertaking, not only a collective undertaking, the unfoldment of the Mother’s Plan — which will not be stopped, by the way — but it is in partnership, with the kingdoms, with Gaia, with your star brothers and sisters and with each one of you.
So as you are incorporating higher and higher quotients of the Divine light, the Creator essence, then you are also doing so for those who stand, sit and walk by you, because your field is penetrating them and assisting them.
So it is viral in the real true sense of the word. And that is why my plea to let go of anything that is not of the highest vibration. Now, I have said to you, both privately and within this forum, that the passport to Ascension is love. And it is the love of self, (2) it is the love and honoring and acknowledgment of yourself and as an outshoot of that your community, humanity, the planet, the kingdoms and the universe.
But the starting point is you. Now, you have been penetrated enormously by the highest light there is, by the highest vibrations and frequency that exists. Now, many of you have felt that you are in an electric chair, and some of you have responded to this frequency by simply being so tired that you could not keep your eyes open. It matters now. You have received the energy.
Love is the key. We are not going to say, “You are only at 48 percent, therefore you cannot come.” That would not be of love. But what we will do is with this open portal, this open doorway, is we will work with you so that that illusion slips away and that you are fully anchored in the 5th, in harmony with Gaia and everything else upon her.
There are times, and this channeling with sweet Ronna Herman was one of those times, when you were given these instructions to help understand and to catapult you into doing what is necessary, just as today I am asking you to let go of any doubt and frustration. Do you not know that we are fully aware of your frustration? And that in so many cases it is not only understood, it is mutual.
No, we do not experience frustration in the same way as you do, but we certainly understand it. And we certainly have, hmm, times when we are anxious to move ahead, and where the human collective has said, “No, we are not quite ready.”
But that has been the entire purpose or twenty-five years plus several eons’ worth of preparation of the lightworker, lightholder, loveholder, pathfinder, wayshower, and pillar community.
You have been the preparation. You do not need to go looking for that creative spark of the Divine. It is already within you. It is part and parcel of who you are, and it is magnificent, bright, beautiful, and profound. So what we are asking, pleading, at this point, because we are very close to that edge, please acknowledge it, embrace it. Deepen it, expand it, and then share it.
SB: Thank you, Lord. Can we round this discussion out by looking at those people who choose not to ascend because they’re parents who want to stay with their children — and I know you have spoken to this previously — but also because they’re doctors in Africa who are dealing with leprosy cases, or victims of AIDS or what have you.?
Can you very clearly tell us, if they choose not to ascend, what is their future? When will they ascend? How will they ascend? Where will they be after December 22nd, if they choose to remain with their patients or children please?
AAM: First of all, the children — and we are talking about children in terms of what you think of as age-wise — are simply not an issue.
SB: Yes, I agree.
AAM: The children already have their wings unfurled and are ready to go. So do not think as a parent that you have need to worry about the children, your animals, your pets. Because they are purity incarnate. It does not matter if they are the most raucous teenagers going through the most hormonal phases, they are ready to go. It does not matter if they are doing drugs, whether they are acting out, whether they are being petulant and disrespectful, they are ready to go.
Now, the question of adult children who wish to stay with their parents who perhaps are not ready to proceed. You are still holding the love ticket. You are still holding the love passport. So do not think that this is eliminating you from proceeding forward.
The only reason one chooses to stay, other than simply an affair with the ego and darkness, but that is not what we are discussing at this moment, is fear. The only reason you choose to stay is fear. And that goes for the doctor in Africa treating lepers and AIDS patients, and it goes for the adult children taking care of their parents, or their sickly spouse, or their mentally deficient sister.
Let me explain. The fear is underneath the love. I am not suggesting that you do not care deeply, but what you are not understanding, my beloved friends, is that the leper is healed, the AIDS patient is healed, the parents who have garnered such love from you go willingly with you.
So you do not need to fall back and say in a martyr way — and most of you who have this feeling have been martyred many, many times — and what you are saying is, “I am willing now to do it again.” And I am saying to you, as Archangel Michael and with the Company of Heaven and the blessing of the Divine Mother, there is no need to stay back.
Can you go and have a transition period for your parents to get used to it, for your patients to regenerate? Yes. But you do not need to stay behind in the old 3rd, which is death, disease, destruction. There is no need.
Your wish to heal, to take care, to nurture — all of these are the divine qualities that you have been practicing and that you are bringing forward. So just go deeper in your understanding of your motivations of your heart, without judgment, and allow the love to grow.
Does it require trust? In the absolute sense, not only trust in One, not only trust in the Plan, but trust in your sacred self? Yes, it does.
But let us also say, we trust that you can do this. You have demonstrated that. So let us go forward together.
SB: What’s interesting about your answer, I don’t think I phrased my question the best way I possibly could, but you’ve answered the question that lay under my question. So thank you for that.
Now, you brought up the question that the leper being healed; the AIDS patient being healed. I have a friend, for instance, who has diabetes who doesn’t see healing happening with herself at this time. And she still may be being healed, but just not aware of it.
When will this healing take place? Only at Ascension, or prior to Ascension? When?
AAM: There are many that are already undergoing healing. There are many that are already in the process of regeneration. And then there are some that are slower. And we do not say that in criticism, but they are slower to heal.
And then there is a reason. Some are simply fearful and reticent. For example, let’s use diabetes. Diabetes is the craving, the desire for the sweetness of life. And it is absent in a great portion of your collective.
So an individual who is not experiencing the healing of the diabetes is because they are still holding that energy for the collective, acknowledging that people, whether they have diabetes or not, are not experiencing the sweetness of life.
But it can also be that they are fearful of letting go of their disease. Not consciously. Certainly not from an ego standpoint. But unconsciously and subconsciously they feel they have not tasted yet the sweetness of life. Therefore they are not letting go of the disease. It is truly, in your dimension of the 3rd reality, a chicken and egg question.
SB: Lord, three more questions. The first is, if you could explain something you said to Susan S., back some time ago in 2012, you said,
“Other later dates also refer to opportunities to ascend yet even further. Right now, it is inconceivable, if I were to say to you, ‘Oh, and by the way, you stay alive, and in 2030 you take another jump.’ You would think I was talking ridiculously. So we stage it as well.”
I imagine you talk about further Ascensions to the 6th and 7th dimension, but could you clarify that statement, please, for us?
AAM: There is a very popular song upon your planet called “You Have Only Just Begun.” When you are anchored in the 5th, the yearning to keep going is going to grow. (3) There will be other opportunities to ascend further. We have not talked about it extensively. Yes, this channel tends to, but not in this forum. I am not doing it because we want to get you through this portal. But are there other ascensions planned within the Divine Plan? The answer is yes.
Is it inconceivable to you at this point? Yes, because your reference point, even those of you who are straddling dimensions — and by the way I am proud of you, and you are doing very, very well — but it is inconceivable to you at this point that we are going to then proceed even further, because your reference point is the old 3rd. And even the improved 3rd, which is physicality X space, without the false grids and paradigms.
SB: Two more questions. A lot of people are — when they hear, for instance, that Inelia Benz is having a conference in the 5th dimension after December 21st, or that somebody is saying, “Hey, let’s get together and have a conference after December 21st,” they take that as an indication that we’re not going to ascend, or they wonder what we’ll have to talk about in the 5th.
Are they correct in assuming that we won’t have any conferences in the 5th? And if we do have conferences in the 5th and other things like that, what purpose will they serve?
AAM: Let me talk to you about us. That what you refer to as the Council of Love or the Company of Heaven, as the inter-galactic councils. Let me share with you. Our favorite thing is to gather, and there is never any shortage of things to discuss. Do we talk in verbal language like this? No, not necessarily. Telepathically, energetically. But there is an infinite creation of entire universes taking place in what you think of every second of every minute. There are a million things to discuss.
You are not arriving into the 5th, or anywhere else, with everything intact and already created. That would defeat the purpose. So it is not simply to come and simply float on a cloud and be blissed out.
Dear friends, you use the word work; we use the word creation, focused action. There is a great deal to talk about and to be done. You are creating and co-creating with us, with your star brothers and sisters; Terra Gaia; Nova Earth. You are anchoring cities of light, new understandings of society, of government, of culture, of healing, of architecture, of energy.
You are coming to know that you are part of a galactic family.
Are there things to talk about? I would suggest that you would want to be gathering constantly. And it does not need to necessarily be formal gatherings, although for many, the adjustment — think of the millions and millions and millions of people who have never thought of this. They are going to want to be brought up to speed. Not because their energy is not there, not because the knowing is not there, but because community will be built in a different way.
People, human beings, this rare species of hybrids, will be speaking to each other in ways that have never occurred, for eons, upon the planet. So yes, of course there will be gatherings. There will be gatherings in neighborhoods and cities of light. There will be gatherings according to interests and projects — and there will be many projects. And do not forget, you are returning full circle to the creator race. And as such, what does that imply? You will be creating.
The human love of discussion, of planning is not going to die. If anything it is going to expand, because collaboration no longer ends up in conflict, in ego. It ends up in greater creation. So of course there will be gatherings.
SB: Lord, Graham and I had a conversation the other day that kept growing in inspirational quality, and we just kept emerging and emerging more in the conversation. So I do know what you’re talking about. [laugh]
Now, you said it will defeat the purpose. What purpose are you referring to, Lord?
AAM: The purpose of co-creation. It would defeat the purpose to never gather as community in many forums and in many formats. It would defeat the purpose of community, of interconnectedness, of union, of unity consciousness, if everyone is to stay within their new, improved home and never talk to another soul.
SB: All right. Well, that’s very clear. My last question is, could you tell us what we need to keep in mind or need to do to ascend in a gentle and easy manner?
AAM: First and foremost, and yes, I do refer to Linda [Dillon]’s book, [The Great Awakening] her eight easy steps that we have told you of. But first and foremost, please anchor to the heart of Gaia so that you are firmly rooted upon the planet as she moves quite literally into new reality. That is essential.
The second is to hold love and peace. I am partial to the blue flame, but it is also your tri-flame, the magenta flame, the violet flame within your being. Use it with great discernment. Hold the love. Be honest with yourself, as you never have been before. Go deeper.
If there is residual of fear, of doubt, it is all right. But you can hand it to me. I will so gladly take it. And if I am not your best friend, then give it to your guides, give it to the Mother, give it to Gaia, but give it away. Let us help you in this.
Then, allow your expanded field, your heart, to reach out and to expand and touch others. This, right now, is some of the most important undertakings, creation, that we have ever asked of thee. So anchor, let go, expand, love yourself, and get ready.
This is the beginning, not the end.
Now, look towards what you will create. Let yourself dream. Let yourself think of what you have always wanted to explore, not in terms of your emotional constraints, or your financial constraints, or your family or societal constraints.
Think about what your dream is. Is it to work with the galactics? Is it to work with the children? Is it to assist the lepers in their transition to health? Is it anchoring cities of light? Is it being a channel?
Explore what you want and start to hold the vision of your creation. You do not need to wait. That is what we have been telling you, inviting you, asking you. Come and let your wings unfurl. You are ready, my beloved friends. Go in peace. Farewell.
SB: Thank you, Lord. That was a rich discussion. Thank you very much. Farewell.
AAM: Farewell.
Footnotes
(1) Archangel Michael, Sept. 27, 2009, through Ronna Herman, https://www.ronnastar.com/latest.html.
(2) Archangel Michael is not referring here to egoistic self-love, but to the pure love of self, that is necessary before we can love others.
(3) This is what I have called in other articles the longing for liberation. It is a subsensible, permanent yearning for God that has been placed in us like a homing beacon. It can only be satisfied by the ultimate experience of God-realization and mergence in God.
(Continued tomorrow in Part 2.)