Col. Kwiatkowski saw no aircraft debris at the Pentagon
I watched a CBC program called “102 Minutes that Changed the World” Sunday night, chronicling events from the first crash into the WTC on 9/11 until the fall of the second tower. I was stunned, unable to move, unable to think.
That was it for me. The only thing I could do was go to bed. And so I changed the channel, surfing to find a show to help me forget what I’d seen and fall asleep. I landed on the Turner Classic Movie channel.
There a “9/11 first responder” by the name of “Vernon Webb” was about to give his 9/11 selection of a movie. First Responder chooses 9/11 fare.
I couldn’t believe what I heard.
The host interviewed Mr. Webb before asking for his movie choice and here is Mr. Webb’s account of events at the Pentagon.
He said he was getting dressed for work and saw the first plane crash into the World Trade Center on TV and then the second plane crash as well. My ears pricked up immediately.
I’m sure you’re all aware that the first plane crash was not shown on any TV channel in the known universe the morning of 9/11. No footage of the first plane crash is known to have existed except the French film crew’s shot, which wasn’t aired until Sept. 12; i.e., the next day.
My jaw dropped.
Mr. Webb then said that he was a block away from the Pentagon and looked out his window and saw a plane fly by. (How serendippitous is that? We have our first eyewitness to a plane having hit the Pentagon.)
Seconds later he heard a crash. He and other “first responders” got in their unmarked cars and went to the Pentagon, saw the fuselage of the jet and (even more serendippetously) saw a Koran lying in the debris. He did not mention any bodies of passengers in the jet but said instead that he saw the bodies of people from the Pentagon.
Looked out his window and saw the plane go by. Jumped in his unmarked car. He gave no explanation of what “first response” team he was a member of. Found a Koran! What a nice touch! Who is this guy?
So there you have it, folks. This impossibly-outlandish story makes me a witness to a cover-up. The first time I’ve heard one in real time. Never mind seeing a mothership land. This was rarer than that.
To hear a contrasting version from someone who definitely was at the Pentagon that day and saw none of what Mr. Webb saw, let’s listen to Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, PhD. She saw no fuselage, no debris, no damage on the lawn beside the Pentagon. She was at the scene of the “crash” within minutes (I’m not so sure Mr. Webb ever was).
“There was a dearth of visible debris on the relatively unmarked [Pentagon] lawn, where I stood only minutes after the impact. Beyond this strange absence of airliner debris, there was no sign of the kind of damage to the Pentagon structure one would expect from the impact of a large airliner. This visible evidence or lack thereof may also have been apparent to the secretary of defense [Donald Rumsfeld], who in an unfortunate slip of the tongue referred to the aircraft that slammed into the Pentagon as a “missile”. …
“I saw nothing of significance at the point of impact – no airplane metal or cargo debris was blowing on the lawn in front of the damaged building as smoke billowed from within the Pentagon. … all of us staring at the Pentagon that morning were indeed looking for such debris, but what we expected to see was not evident.
“The same is true with regard to the kind of damage we expected. … But I did not see this kind of damage. Rather, the facade had a rather small hole, no larger than 20 feet in diameter. Although this facade later collapsed, it remained standing for 30 or 40 minutes, with the roof line remaining relatively straight.
“The scene, in short, was not what I would have expected from a strike by a large jetliner. It was, however, exactly what one would expect if a missile had struck the Pentagon.” (1)
Finding a Koran at the Pentagon is only a bit more outlandish than finding an unsinged passport belonging to one of the hijackers in the WTC debris. What can I say?
My best guess is that I’ve just watched an instalment of a cover-up, 2011-style. Some cover-up! Michael Moore would have a field day with this bumbling attempt at fooling us.
Who is paying “Vernon Webb” to say what he just said? And what role has Turner Classic Movies played in this? Dupe? Shill? Accomplice?
Now just in case you think I’m making this up, here is a Turner Classic Movie write-up that repeats what I just said:
TCM Commemorates 9/11 — TCM, Sept. 11, 8pm ET. TCM marks the 10th anniversary of 9/11 with a special night of films chosen by two first responders, Patrick McNally and Vernon Webb. …
Webb was at work in a nearby annex when the Pentagon was attacked. He and others served round-the-clock for the next several days investigating the crime scene. Webb, who became the first African American to hold the title of Criminal Investigator in Defensive Protective Service, chooses 1960′s All the Young Men as his first movie pick tonight, because it was one of the movies from his youth that inspired him to enter the military. And because he “grew up on John Wayne movies,” Webb also selects 1948′s Red River, with Wayne as a ruthless rancher and Montgomery Clift as a young protege who “turns out to be a better man” by learning the value of compassion.
That story was run by Kelley Twedell in the Fort Bragg Patch, Sept. 2, 2011, under the heading “9/11 Television Programming,” at https://fortbragg.patch.com/articles/911-television-programming.
My curiosity piqued, I read a little more of the programming discussed in the Fort Bragg Patch. I read about one program that I could not watch during the day. I tried but it seemed just too off-track.
CNN Presents: “Footnotes of 9/11″ — CNN, Sept. 6, 11pm ET (replay Sept. 11, 8pm ET). Correspondent Drew Griffin interviews eight people who went to work on Sept. 11, 2001 and unexpectedly became part of history. Each of the eight people profiled is mentioned in The 9/11 Commission Report — their unique experiences are drawn from the 1,742 footnotes of that report and offer critical detail to the tragic events of that day. They include ticket agents who checked in some of the terrorists, a maintenance technician who answered a call from one of the planes under attack, and the Lt. Col. in the Massachusetts Air National Guard, also a United Airlines pilot, who scrambled to provide defense for New York and faced the possibility of having to shoot down a passenger plane.
Ticket agents who checked in some of the terrorists? There were no terrorists on the planes, no Arab names on the flight manifests. What might the “ticket agent” have said? Yes, I checked in Mohammed Atta under the assumed name of “Jackie Gleason.”
“Maintenance technician who answered a call from one of the planes under attack”? I hope it wasn’t Flight 93 because cellphones didn’t operate above 3,000 feet in 2001 and there were no airphones, if I remember correctly, on that plane. Anyways, the mayor of Cincinatti announced over the news that Flight 93 landed at Cincinatti airport, if I remember correctly, around 10:45 on Sept. 11, 2001. The passengers were escorted to an abandoned NASA hangar, if memory serves, and never seen again. (2)
Duffy, the Lt. Col who was sent up to defend New York and faced the possibility of having to shoot down a passenger plane? No National Guard pilot was directed anywhere near one of the passenger airliners. I’m a little rusty on my memory of all the fighter jets that were sent up that day (not many were; most were rerouted over Canada on a “training mission”). But the only fighter jets sent up in the air, if I recall correctly, were sent out over the Atlantic and turned back after a couple of hundred miles of useless flying.
There’s clearly an active cover-up still going on today. The parties responsible for 9/11 are still hiring actors and mouthing scripts. SaLuSa warned us of that on Sept. 9. He said:
“The media is gearing up for the anniversary of 9/11 and still does not feel free to discuss the obvious evidence that it was an inside job. They will carry on supporting the ‘official’ verdict that is patently false and contrived to protect the real criminals, who will answer for their crimes in the Courts of Justice.”
Footnotes
(1) Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, PhD, on https://patriotsquestion911.com/. Thanks to Berend for this note: “Lt. Robert Medairos, ‘First Incident Commander at the Scene’ declared: ‘My first thought was I couldn’t believe what happened and they said it was a plane and I didn’t see any pieces of any plane and I couldn’t believe that a plane hit the building.'”
(2) Loose Change video.