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January 21, 2021 at 2:39 PM #316791
clairerobin
ParticipantPeriod of self-identification
I believe we are in a period of self-declaration. Do you serve love? Or do you serve hate? The hate regarding the election did not end with inauguration. I believe that hate was merely clearing it’s throat. The inauguration amplified the hatred.
This has been my up close and personal experience with being a non-hater, including being a non-Trump hater. Since I don’t do hate, I also don’t hate Trump. This caused a cavernous divide between me and two family members. The first time it happened, Family member A spent about 30 minutes trying to talk me into hating Trump. After 30 minutes of defending myself, I got tired and blurted out “because I don’t do hate, I don’t even hate the drug dealer who sold my son the drugs that killed him.” There was a long silence. How do you respond to that? Apparently, the only response is silence.
I thought that put an end to this family member trying to indoctrinate me into hatred. A week later, Family member A expected me to explain myself again. It wasn’t okay to not hate Trump.
This is how I interpret this. There are people who previously never indulged in hatred, who’ve been successfully indoctrinated into hate for the first time in their life. In addition, that programming they received requires them to indoctrinate others into hatred. Some people are faced with this dilemma: I have to recruit you into hatred OR I have hurt you. And that’s what these two family members do, they hurt me with hateful words, innuendoes or implying I have some sort of thinking disorder. They both gaslight me. They need the problem to lie with me, otherwise they have to question the validity of their own hatred and their own thinking.
I would rather die than become a hateful person. This is something most people won’t understand. This life isn’t about how long we live. It’s about how we live and who we serve: do we serve love or do we serve hate?
I may well die alone, with no one, but at least I won’t die being a hateful person.
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January 21, 2021 at 4:25 PM #316794
living soil
Participant“because I don’t do hate, I don’t even hate the drug dealer who sold my son the drugs that killed him.”
This life isn’t about how long we live. It’s about how we live and who we serve: do we serve love or do we serve hate?
I may well die alone, with no one, but at least I won’t die being a hateful person.
May I too join you – you are not alone. Thank you.
So very nice to meet you here. Thank you for your share.
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January 21, 2021 at 5:46 PM #316796
AnaelTheRoseAngel
ParticipantI deeply resonate with your feelings, robin. I live with someone who thinks Trump is the most evil man alive. Fortunately, I have somehow managed to avoid being directly harassed for my views, but his hate-filled and judgmental laughter towards Trump wounds my heart. I am so sorry for your loss; I also lost someone I loved with all my heart. My twin flame died in a car accident because the guy driving the car was high on acid. My beloved was much too kind and naive for his own good, and he lost his life because of it. I do not hate the man who killed my twin flame, and I pray that he has learned his lesson so he doesn’t hurt anyone else. Hatred is an emotion that is nonexistent within me. I did harbor it in a small quantity years ago, but I have long left it.
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January 21, 2021 at 5:57 PM #316797
AnaelTheRoseAngel
ParticipantI think this bears being reposted for newcomers, and it neatly ties in with the subject of love and hate.
May 29th, 2020
With what I am about to share, I hope to help bring light to something that often triggers people’s deeply rooted issues. I am only stating my opinions, because I do not have infinite wisdom like the Divine Mother. It is my best attempt at comprehending the world around me, and that is all that any of us can do.
My philosophy on evil
I had a dream last night where I spoke to a widely suspected member of the Illuminati, and it was a bizarre and uncomfortable experience. I don’t remember most of the conversation, but I remember saying to her, “I was probably one of the cabal members in a past life. Maybe even you.”
She rudely dismissed my comment with a short and condescending “no,” which makes me think that she either thought it was ridiculous to suggest that she and I are the same soul, or maybe she doesn’t believe in reincarnation. That dream got me thinking about darkness and what I believe evil really is.
First I must say that I feel no shame in saying that I probably WAS one of the members of the cabal in a past life, I just don’t know who. I may or may not actually be one of them, but I wouldn’t be surprised if I were.
The reason I say this is because I feel deep in my heart that I am among the few souls that dared to see how far this game of darkness could be pushed, how much perceived separation from God could be created, and I take great pride in that. I know that sounds really crazy, but from my point of view, this is all just a game, and all the players in it are eternal and our existence cannot be destroyed. We are forever enfolded in the love of our Creator.
Energy, or consciousness in this case, cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed; one of the few laws of physics in mainstream science that actually holds water. Our Source is that very consciousness that cannot be created or destroyed, and it transformed parts of itself to create everything around us, including ourselves.
With the mindset of our lives on Earth being the grandest game, I do not hate the Illuminati. I weep for their victims, and I abhor their actions, but I also perfectly comprehend their purpose for existing, which is to show us that we do not want hate, fear and violence, and that we DO want Love; so my hatred is nonexistent. “Condemn the offense, not the offender” is a phrase that comes to mind, and I try to live by that as much as I can.
I admit that I have my low points where I feel so weary of living here in this darkness, where I wish that the members of the cabal would just disappear, but I never wish harm upon them. They have created their own hell for themselves, so it is not my place to punish. I don’t want revenge, I just want peace.
At times like these when I deeply contemplate the situation I’m in, I feel a great respect for them; I feel that they are the only beings in this universe that are “evil” enough to provide a truly challenging test of strength — strength of heart, mind, and spirit. I know from my past lives and all of the channeled messages stating such that I am an extremely powerful being. Most of my past lives that I am aware of are warriors of differing kinds. So with that in mind, I respect the Illuminati members as worthy opponents or rivals.
With my opinion of the cabal out of the way, let’s ask two basic questions: what is evil? And does inherent evil exist? I will give my answer to the second question and explain my answer using the first question. I believe inherent evil does not exist, not in a single soul out there. Now what do I believe is the definition of evil? I happen to share the same definition of evil as Zingdad does, which he describes in his book The Ascension Papers. To me, evil is the PERCEPTION that one’s ability to choose has been taken away.
Often you’ll hear victims of crimes say, “Why me? I didn’t want this; I didn’t CHOOSE this.” However, the reality is that we always choose our experiences, and even in an intense moment where a decision has to be made immediately, there are always multiple choices available, even if certain choices are perceived to be impossible or extremely difficult.
The size of one’s list of choices to make is directly proportional to the degree of freedom they believe they have. The more that someone believes in their inherent freedom and the ability to create miracles, the more choices they will know that they have at any given moment. But, those choices are always there, regardless of someone’s state of consciousness.
All the tragedies that we see in the world are there because of choices that those souls made before incarnating, but everyone forgets those decisions after they are born, so to try to make sense of why certain people act out in violence towards others, the concept of evil was born in order to deflect responsibility and blame others for our pain. Because no one can ever truly take away another person’s ability to choose, I do not believe that evil is inherent in anyone.
People who commit acts of violence of any nature are struggling to cope with their perception that their ability to choose has been taken away by someone else; in order to feel some sense of control again, they hurt others and attempt to take away their ability to choose. It is a vicious cycle and the only thing that can stop it is self responsibility, the strength to own one’s choices and not blame others for one’s own suffering.
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January 21, 2021 at 6:15 PM #316798
clairerobin
ParticipantThank you all for your words. I feel much less alone now. Perhaps there are people who are born to have a hateful experience, so they can learn how to not hate. And to do that, they have to feel that hate. It’s unfortunate when you become hated for not being hateful. Perhaps we are part of another’s experience, by providing them with the stage to learn that lesson. What I find the most confounding is all the hate directed towards one person recently, all with the goal of having a better world. They actually think they can create a better world for themselves through widespread hatred. If that’s not the definition of insanity, then I don’t know what insanity is. Thanks again.
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January 21, 2021 at 6:41 PM #316799
AnaelTheRoseAngel
ParticipantI am happy to help, welcome to the forum.
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January 25, 2021 at 5:02 PM #316943
Catherine Viel
ModeratorI believe it was Einstein who first defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. It’s a widely quoted slogan in the 12-step recovery world.
Your definition is equally perfect.
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January 26, 2021 at 3:32 AM #316950
OneRayLove
ParticipantLol 😂😂😂
Sooooo True … and yet we humans try to prove “this” wrong … all the Time.How funny that even Einstein was resisting Quantum Physics to some degree 😉🙃
Love you
Ralph
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January 22, 2021 at 5:34 AM #316806
OneRayLove
ParticipantI really “dislike” to disrupt this very loving and healing energie. I do so much enjoy we have new participants actively joining us here in the forum.
Thank you so much for participating Robin.
The possible disruptive energy I am offering … with the best of Intention!!! … is the collective confusion … Love and Hate are a duality pair!
They are Not! Only when people are truly ready to accept, they are able to heal!
Hate is a projected feeling belonging to FEAR.
FEAR in itself doesn’t exist. It needs an observer/BE-holder to present itself.
Fear is the presumed absence of LOVE
LOVE is the Receiving reflection of LIGHT
LIGHT and LOVE are ONE, centered within the SOURCE observerNo other one but me needs to accept this Truth, nevertheless it’s freely available for All to ponder on and possibly accept.
I very much admire you Robin, for standing your ground, your Truth and helping healing this world from false energy.
Thank you, love you
Ralph
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January 22, 2021 at 6:53 AM #316807
living soil
ParticipantMay I ask a question I have pondered for awhile…?
I hope to clearly state it as I feel it.Jesus , for those who believe his life was an example for us to emulate ,
And Gandhi, who is another. Both are mentors I choose.Jesus was crucified and Gandhi beaten and shot in the end …
And I could list millions at this point in history.I do resonate with Zingdad’s book.
I love what you share Aneal. I too was really changed in my perspective to truly understand oneness and our souls journey through the many incarnations and separation from source and the return trip, home.Personally, I have had my phone and electronic devices hacked- voice recorded copied, pasted and sent back being a complete fabrication of the truth. I have had internet articles come looking completely real – to a very discerning eye. So yes, what I see as dark or evil and its capacities (using technology instead of fists and guns) are all around us to learn and grow from, but I also see that the toxins that pour into our waters and the air (geo-engineering) toxins that we have no choice to breathe have gone well beyond the formula of “reaping what you sow” and that is why the light is pouring in now. To counter the absolute darkness that don’t care at all about honouring free-will etc.
Maybe it’s more layered than simple so that “bad ” happenings don’t feel like punishment (as in- you earned that). I say this because I held that belief when I saw someone suffer. Maybe that is why I too have had to have the experience when I shut down companies and dismantled a life I was not willing to participate in anymore. HUGE effect and very traumatizing in which I am still healing from.
Meditation and leaving duality is a wonderful antidote to be sure and I love all the support we have available on this planet NOW – this site for example and all who visit to support one another during these final days of incredible change. I too realize and get to thrive in the NEW way of being as I am a gardener of NEW EARTH now. I love life in all of their forms and keep my head above water witnessing the destruction by creating more and more life and teaching others that connection when they open to it.
Love to you all…always, and thanks for sharing,
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January 22, 2021 at 2:42 PM #316826
OneRayLove
ParticipantHi Lori,
Very well said. Thanks for your views … Always.
To counter the absolute darkness that don’t care at all about honouring free-will etc.
I know quantum physics isn’t everyone’s cup of tea. Nevertheless it explains to some degree the power of the “observer”. We live in a quantum physics reality, we observe as linear and solid. However, nothing is solid but resides within waves/timelines of possibilities.
Only when the observer “focusses” on their perceived “true” reality, this “illusion” is realized/materialized.
That’s how powerful we TRULY are.
Rewrite “darkness” in all aspects you currently belief. Take your true Free Will to the max. The outside Universe must follow! It’s mirroring your reflection.
I Know you KNOW this!
Love you
Ralph
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January 22, 2021 at 9:55 AM #316821
clairerobin
ParticipantYour words have made me think. And now I think I had to have this experience for a reason. I’ve seen the transformation of two people, up close and personal, from either neutral or average to hateful. If you told me this was going to happen, I would never have believed it. (especially not with regard to these two particular people). Why was I shown this? Perhaps it explains what’s happening out there. It explains how events of the past six months came about. It explains how something happened to cause many people to turn to hatred. Perhaps their hatred is their conduit for fear, it’s how they cope with their fear. They transmute fear to hatred, rather than trying to comfort themselves through other methods, such as meditation, prayer, comfort from family and friends, connecting with nature and service to others. The hatred out there, the hatred for Trump, got very, very close to me. Close enough to cause great distress. I feel better today, partly due to sharing my experience and partly due to all the kind words written in the comments. I just wonder if you have to get really, really close to that which you want to bring light to. Otherwise, how do you bring light to it if you don’t go near it. There’s much, much fear and hatred out there. And you can’t tell where it is exactly, usually.
To make it worse, the most upsetting hatred directed at me occurred during Christmas dinner. And it’s taken me this long to understand all of this. it’s taken this long to realize I have PTSD. Perhaps it’s mostly subsided, as yesterday was a very bad day for me. And today I feel like I’ve hit a turning point. Thank you for making me think. I think I understand what happened much better now.
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January 22, 2021 at 2:11 PM #316825
OneRayLove
ParticipantPlease allow me to add something to this conversation. I feel this conversation holds much release of energy … relief. This I consider a very good thing.
Expressing oneself in any way is always helpful. Having a platform for being heared, safe, discreet and without judgement is very precious.
Equally finding “others” with similar thoughts or/and experience helps inner healing and peace.
Nevertheless equally if not more valuable are those of opposite Be-holding for the very purpose of learning (OneSelf).
Studying spiritual teachers I had two very remarkable Truths I taught myself to accept.
1) Everyone is always right
2) All feelings you ever sensed, where your own creationIf one is to come at any point in time to accept those 2 as Truth, this one is allowed to further inner reflection, find the clarity, purge the memory … and learn to forgive and project this frequency all together. Rise above it.
For me personally, over and over when I was faced with a challenge related to behavior of “others” … I was in fact presented the gift of memory.
I recognized the behavior with others, I had the corresponding “feeling” with it. I had the spiritual understanding, to no longer desire this frequency … and therefore an ability to heal mezelf.
As long as I stayed in the judgement of “others”, I was probably still “attracted” to aspects of it.
Please take my views as you like or dislike. All I contribute to this forum holds my current highest intent (LIGHT).
One last thing. All great masters of past and present, can only offer you direction. Their direction is Never your true direction, because you are equal a master. Step in your OWN full LIGHT.
It’s your shadow and fear, you are scared of. I learned it’s related to Love, BEING LOVE … and probably “deserve” it as a false narrative around fear, shame and doubt.Love you All 💕💕
Ralph
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January 22, 2021 at 5:39 PM #316828
clairerobin
ParticipantRalph, I understand what you are saying…completely. And I agree. I’m not struggling with forgiveness, as I see hatred as the inability to forgive a real or perceived wrong. It comes from fear. And it can come from a false misdeed or a false fear. I’ve never done hate, as I find it easier to forgive instantly, than to have to reverse/purge hatred later, that I might harbour in any situation. It’s better and easier to just not go there at all. I’m more in shock at where this hate came from, why it manifested in these two people, how it manifested and the degree to which two previously otherwise peaceful people, could change to the point where they pushed a hate agenda. And I can even accept their right to try to convert me to hatred. What I find unsettling is this: once they realized I couldn’t be converted to hate, they turned their hate on me. That’s what’s happening all over North America. Big tech, the MSM, big biz and even talk-show comedians are conduits. It’s been a very successfully hate campaign. I’ve never seen this much hatred in the world. Perhaps the Rodney King or the BLM periods are similar in intensity. But that’s intensity, this is more about being everywhere. And it’s everywhere because the MSM made sure it went everywhere. I’m just shocked that there are people who will turn their hate towards you if you don’t join with them in their hatred of someone.
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January 23, 2021 at 6:38 AM #316849
OneRayLove
ParticipantPerfect Robin and thanks for responding.
I’m more in shock at where this hate came from, why it manifested in these two people, how it manifested and the degree to which two previously otherwise peaceful people, could change to the point where they pushed a hate agenda.
As I see it. It’s your privileged Higher Awareness, from a Known lesson learned to Observe, discern, guide, without Being involved in false narrative … the Fear itself. Unfortunately they are trapped in the context and the projection game they hold on to.
What I find unsettling is this: once they realized I couldn’t be converted to hate, they turned their hate on me.
This holds two Truth aspects. One Higher Truth is the gift to witness the false narrative and presumed “power over others”, to collapse IN on itself (created fear control construction).
The “other” to step back, Knowing your Truth, holding your ground, transforming your faith from believe to KNOWING.“They” can’t exist within a world of many Free Truths. You can!
Love your participation here.
Thank you
Ralph
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January 24, 2021 at 1:24 PM #316894
clairerobin
ParticipantRalph
You are absolutely a breath of fresh air to me. I’ve struggled with this for about five months. Through this discussion, and all who contributed, I actually feel at peace with it for the first time. Your particular post really resonated with me. And I do think I was given this experience, so that I could reach the understanding I now have, which was manifested into my reality by sharing my experience on this forum. Thanks to everyone, you are all a gift to me.
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January 24, 2021 at 1:46 PM #316897
OneRayLove
ParticipantVery nice to hear Robin. Thanks. And equally thanks to you … Attracting Love and Light … Clearing the path for You and All
Love you. Please keep participating here on the forum. We love your contribution 💕💕
Ralph
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January 25, 2021 at 4:57 PM #316942
Catherine Viel
ModeratorI’m just starting to read this thread…first, I send a virtual hug. I’m so very sorry about your son. And, be assured that you will not die alone even if no one else is there.
💓💞💓Second, the notion of “haters” compulsively trying to indoctrinate others into the fold is brilliant. I’d never seen it that way. Like the most malevolent MLM scheme imaginable.
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January 25, 2021 at 5:15 PM #316944
Catherine Viel
ModeratorThe best antidote to fear/hate I know is nature, being in it, and as manifested by the lovely cats who elected to land with us here. They don’t have even the concept of hate in their beings. I know, they may fight if provoked, and hunt, as it’s their nature (and their need if feral).
But hate? Not there.
I think this thread is what Steve meant when he told me something like, The Forum is about is growing spiritually by sharing ourselves. Communicating. That’s the purpose of the forum.
Something like that, anyway. Thank you all for being here, and keep coming back and sharing. So healing, so liberating.
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