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April 26, 2021 at 10:46 PM #320398
bluestarseed
ParticipantThe title of the thread says it all. This could be one of the many websites out there for a one-stop site for a “vaccine” related database. Please share far and wide, above and beyond. Thank you all for caring.
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April 27, 2021 at 5:16 AM #320399
bluestarseed
ParticipantAdditional informational resources for consideration:
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April 27, 2021 at 9:02 AM #320407
Catherine Viel
ModeratorHello, thank you for this thread. I was going to add the website for Dr. Joseph Mercola and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.‘s anti-vaccine website, but I see they are in the second post that you put up.
Another one that would be useful for journalists is:
This website states that it is not a news aggregator but a collection of evidence that can be used in court cases.
If anyone else has reliable, preferably science-based sources, please do post here. Thank you.
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April 27, 2021 at 9:15 AM #320408
Catherine Viel
ModeratorI forgot about America‘s Frontline Doctors:
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April 27, 2021 at 9:34 AM #320409
Suzanne Maresca
Keymaster…and this ~
Established in 1990, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) is a national early warning system to detect possible safety problems in U.S.-licensed vaccines. VAERS is co-managed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). VAERS accepts and analyzes reports of adverse events (possible side effects) after a person has received a vaccination. Anyone can report an adverse event to VAERS. Healthcare professionals are required to report certain adverse events and vaccine manufacturers are required to report all adverse events that come to their attention.
VAERS is a passive reporting system, meaning it relies on individuals to send in reports of their experiences to CDC and FDA. VAERS is not designed to determine if a vaccine caused a health problem, but is especially useful for detecting unusual or unexpected patterns of adverse event reporting that might indicate a possible safety problem with a vaccine. This way, VAERS can provide CDC and FDA with valuable information that additional work and evaluation is necessary to further assess a possible safety concern.
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May 20, 2021 at 6:58 PM #321322
Lynn
ParticipantI’m wondering how people plan to handle possible restrictions for not being vaccinated. I have no intention of getting the shot but a part of me wonders at what cost. How far will it go?
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May 20, 2021 at 9:28 PM #321329
Suzanne Maresca
KeymasterHi Lynn,
I don’t personally subscribe to any timeline that has restrictions for the un-vaxxed at all…and honestly? The cost to health and well-being far outweighs any attempted punishment for disobedience. I don’t care to travel much until things shift, anyway. And I don’t imagine we actually have long to wait for that from here.As far as how far will things go? Nothing would surprise me at this point and I do agree with the labeling of our experience as one of ‘near death.’
A previously close friend of mine blew me away yesterday when she told me that the NY Renaissance Faire where we’ve worked together is opening this year for September and October, and that I really ought to get vaccinated so I won’t have to wear a mask at the Faire. What are they going to do, check papers? If that’s how they play it, I seriously don’t need to go spend money there.
The more troubling cost in my view is that to relationships. On the other hand…maybe I need to look at the fact that what I thought was a good relationship turns out to be kind of one sided…and better let go of.
Catherine’s given some great resources that bring confirmation that trying to restrict the freedom of those who eschew the shots is actually against the law.
So keep the faith and try to let go of worry over how awful it could get. If we’re truly Creator Beings, I’ll put my energy towards Human Sovereignty taking center stage, and team dark getting the hook.
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May 20, 2021 at 7:46 PM #321324
Catherine Viel
ModeratorHi Lynn, great question. I think many sources say things won’t get to the restrictive point, but I do share your concerns, since there are already discrimination and segregation tactics happening.
I’ve found very helpful info at TheHealthyAmerican.org and suggest you check it out. It’s illegal in the US to enact restrictions based on medical status, including vaccination. Knowing the civil rights and Constitutional sections of law that state so is a way to arm /armor yourself.
Hope others chime in on this. I cannot imagine an instance where I want to do something and am prevented because of no vax. I know some employers are instituting mandatory vax policies and I just read an article that, again in the US, such employers, per new OSHA regulations, can be held accountable for any vax injuries if vax is a requirement for employment. I’ll post that link separately.
Of course the spiritual armament is key—holding the intent that we are perfectly safe and healthy and have access to everything we need, in the manner we prefer…lots of white light protection.
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May 20, 2021 at 7:51 PM #321325
Catherine Viel
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May 20, 2021 at 7:54 PM #321326
Catherine Viel
ModeratorHere’s helpful info from America’s Frontline Doctors:
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May 20, 2021 at 8:47 PM #321327
Catherine Viel
ModeratorFor US citizens:
Businesses cannot legally ask for proof of vaccination. This is a violation of your privacy and property rights as protected by state and federal law.
The Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution states, “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, should not be violated.“
Title Three of the US Civil Rights Act prohibits discrimination based on medical condition (i.e., unvaccinated) in private businesses such as grocery stores, banks, restaurants, hotels, retail stores and all public facilities including schools.
Any person who violates your rights can be held liable under Title 18 USC Section 242, deprivation of rights. Penalty for this crime can include life in prison or death penalty.
It is illegal to require proof of vaccination as a condition for entry or service to any private business public establishment.
— source, Peggy Hall, The Healthy American
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May 21, 2021 at 9:26 AM #321352
Lynn
ParticipantHi Everyone!
Great to hear from you and thanks for sharing your perspectives.
I’m in Canada and there are many instances already of both federal and provincial governments breaking constitutional and human rights laws in this country. A constitutional lawyer named Rocco Galati has been very active in fighting to protect our civil liberties and has filed several suits against the government for these types of violations. (I have attached a link below if anyone is interested in more information)
Even though it’s very clear that many of the COVID sanctions/shutdowns/lockdown orders are unconstitutional it doesn’t stop the government and businesses from passing rules anyways. I’m not confident that, in the short term, the Constitution and our Charter of Rights and Freedoms will protect our right to choose.
So if those of use who see what’s happening differently, and some might say with clearer eyes, what do we do if the law is not on our side?
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May 21, 2021 at 11:11 AM #321357
Catherine Viel
ModeratorIsn’t the question, What do we do if the law is on our side but businesses, government, and others are ignoring the law and infringing on our rights and liberties anyway?
I just saw where Oregon has enacted a vaccine passport for people to be in businesses without a mask.
I hear what you’re saying about Canada being so restrictive. I don’t have any answers other than what the organizations fighting for our freedoms have to say, like America’s front line doctors.
Let’s hope something major shifts very soon. I’m not much liking the totalitarian maneuvers that are being enacted.
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May 21, 2021 at 1:22 PM #321364
Lynn
ParticipantFunny, I thought Oregon Governor and another state in that area were saying no to passports. I was considering applying as a refugee to those states…lol.
Not all of Canada is the same. Some provinces are stricter than others. In Ontario we have been in full lockdown for months. June will see an easing of restriction but only if 60% of residents have had their first shot. So they are holding our freedom hostage until that point. The whole thing just blows my mind.
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May 21, 2021 at 3:56 PM #321368
Catherine Viel
ModeratorIt is mind blowing. If we don’t watch out, the whole world will be trying to move to Florida!
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May 21, 2021 at 3:58 PM #321369
Catherine Viel
ModeratorI’m on the America’s Frontline Doctors email list and this arrived today:
WE’RE SUING:
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT Court
AMERICA’S FRONTLINE DOCTORS
PETITION FOR TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER
vs.
XAVIER BECERRA, Secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, AND John & Jane Does I-V; Black & White Partnerships; and ABC Corporations I-V,
Defendants.
Dear Catherine,
Today America’s Frontline Doctors filed a petition for a temporary restraining order against the U.S. Secretary of the U.S. Department of HHS, Xavier Becerra.
Here’s why:
Children are not guinea pigs: There is a statistically zero percent chance of young people dying of COVID-19. To promote an investigational product that has no long-term studies and no animal studies, to pressure parents and teens to use an experimental product that has not been fully approved by the FDA breaks all of the rules of medicine and the HHS’ own goal to protect Americans.
The expansion of the Emergency Use Authorization (EAU) for younger children is all risk and no benefit. HHS is ignoring the science and the data.
HHS is betraying its mission to, “enhance the health and well-being of all Americans…and by fostering sound, sustained advances in the sciences underlying medicine, public health, and social services.”
Sadly, millions of parents are being misled by HHS Secretary Becerra and the FDA, and we are calling on the Federal Courts to stop Becerra and compel HHS to suspend the promotion and rush to administer a vaccine that has not been fully tested and approved.
COVID 19 Vaccine Side Effects: We’ve never seen this level of side effects for any vaccine without the FDA taking action. The Rotavirus vaccine was canceled for 15 cases of non-lethal side effects and the Swine Flu vaccine was canceled for 25 deaths. But now, by the CDC’s own data, we are seeing a 12,000 percent increase in deaths with these vaccines and they’re still promoting this to our kids.
Support the Science: Under the age of 20, the survivability rate for COVID-19 is 99.997 percent. More than 4,000 deaths have been tied to the administering of COVID-19 vaccines in the last four months as opposed to 1,500 total in the previous ten years for all vaccines.
This last fact alone should be enough to STOP this dangerous vaccine. But HHS, the FDA and the CDC are ignoring the science and they are putting the lives of our children on the line. Thousands of doctors and physician groups across the world are demanding the vaccine rollout be stopped. But America’s Frontline Doctors is the one group that is suing to make sure that the government does not continue down this dangerous road.
Please consider assisting America’s Frontline Doctor’s today with your gifts of support. Your donation of $25, $50, $500, or more will support our critical efforts to hold our elected officials accountable, inform parents, and protect children from harm.
Thank you for standing with us again today.
For Liberty,
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May 22, 2021 at 6:54 PM #321408
MurrietaLight
ParticipantHey everybody, I have made a decision. I’ve read all the scary information out there on the virus and also the vaccine that I could absorb. I’ve read from people all over the world, scientists and doctors, and many others.
After thorough consideration, and knowing that my guides have advised me that it’s my choice whether or not to take the vaccine–that the negative effects have been neutralized–and also knowing that everyone I know and whom I see with my own eyes who had the vaccine is just doing fine. Normal. They haven’t turned into a mutant species of misfits or aberrations of nature.
I have decided to go get the vaccine. I’m not longer going to worry about it. Society is just about to bust out in health and activity again, and I want to be part of it. I did all my fighting when I had the fight in me all throughout my life. Now I am here to heal and enlighten, and that’s what I’m going to continue to do. I want to be part of the forward movement of enlightening our planet, rather than lagging behind, fighting for something I no longer believe in.
I enjoyed Catherine’s piece on not wearing a mask at TJ’s. I had been wondering how that went. Thank you Catherine.
But you know what, we all have to follow what our insides are telling us to do in this matter. Some of us are teaching others lessons in strength and courage, and others are teaching that it’s okay to trust your inner guidance, and much more.
So as soon as I can, I’m going to go get the jab. And not worry about it. I respect what everyone else feels the need to do in this matter, and I wish us all good luck on our respective journeys.
Pat
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May 23, 2021 at 8:38 AM #321425
Catherine Viel
ModeratorHi Pat, thank you for sharing this here. Please let us know how it goes!
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May 23, 2021 at 11:53 AM #321430
Catherine Viel
ModeratorAs a follow up comment…I have read that channeled sources, as you said, Pat, have indicated that the jabs’ toxic elements have been neutralized.
So why so many deaths and adverse events? “Karma”? Soul contract? Etc.? I’ve read about that reasoning but don’t totally buy into it.
I’m interested in others’ comments on this issue.
I do understand that on some level, it all comes down to personal choice…
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May 24, 2021 at 5:11 PM #321459
MurrietaLight
ParticipantCatherine, none of us knows what is going on with other people, not what is really going on inside them. Especially what is going on in their spiritual world. People have their own reasons for doing things. We have been told time and time again that there are no accidents. If there are deaths associated with covid and also the vaccine, these are choices people make on a higher level of being. That’s what I’ve been told time and again, and I trust the information to be true.
We each have to follow our own inner guidance as we walk our path through life. We simply can’t know all the workings of the spiritual world while we are incarnated on this planet. When looking at appearances only, lots of things just don’t make sense. That’s the human dilemma.
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May 24, 2021 at 6:53 PM #321462
Catherine Viel
ModeratorTruer words were never spoken!
When looking at appearances only, lots of things just don’t make sense. That’s the human dilemma.
Thanks, Pat.
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May 23, 2021 at 3:09 PM #321436
OneRayLove
ParticipantHello my friends,
I always read everything posted on the forum, however not always “feel” an urge to speak up. People visiting here often, could “know” me or at least have developed an opinion about me … which is perfectly fine by me and I even guess natural.
Therefore you could have noticed I speak up, from an inner “intuition, knowing, guidance or strength” … I feel drawn to it, when I “am” in the subject energy and “tab in” to the “answer” surrounding it. I even don’t care how it should be called or how “confident” others consider this to be.So for what it’s worth, triggered by the latest conversations.
Spiritual growth is all about shifting your “previous lower” believes. From there transmute it back into Love. All individuals hold Light as their center core and source, radiating out with intent and breathing in as Love. Around this process you feel energy shift back in alignment.
Everyone is unique and is far larger then the physical realm or just your human bodies (mental, emotional, physical, etherical, spiritual).So in this light the “truth” is centered around your perception. Your perception is stored in your bodies, surrounding your believe, past and present and as such hold “doubt, lower light, constructs of control and lesser aligned forms of fear”, which is “just” the perception of absence of Love. It is stored in your Akashic records and in your DNA.
Knowing who you are and trusting “your” Self is the only way!
If you would apply this only to crossing a street, a border or opening a door … it all depends where you “came” from. If one came from the left, this one needs to cross over to the right. The other way around for the one coming from the right (although this example only describes a duality concept of truth versus not).
There are no absolutes in All possibilities … which you are the center of. You are unique and you know your direction when you “tune in” … “feel” what is right, because you can “feel” where you have been … you remember! If you remember and still like to avoid your “dark, lower, former” light … that’s ok, you are probably not ready for it.
However looking outside in the world and trying to determine a “problem and consequently general solution for all” … that was the 3D concept we are leaving behind.
You can always ask and or give advice … but you are the only one who knows what is the correct one for you Now!Thank you for allowing me to express myself.
Much Love 💖💓💞
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May 24, 2021 at 4:59 PM #321458
MurrietaLight
ParticipantThat was really nice, Ralph. Very uplifting and inspirational. Thank you.
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May 24, 2021 at 6:54 PM #321463
Catherine Viel
ModeratorLovely commentary, Ralph, thank you. 😘
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May 24, 2021 at 12:43 PM #321454
MurrietaLight
ParticipantI just got the jab today. I received the Johnson & Johnson vaccine so I only need one dose. I am done! The shot hurt as it went deep into the muscle, but so far I have not experienced any soreness in my arm, or any other symptoms. I’ve had flu shots, pneumonia shots, shingles shots, TB shots, and I’ve never had an adverse reaction to any of them. I’ve had a real strong constitution in my life, and I’m grateful for it.
But you never know in the next few days how things will go, so I will give an update periodically if there are any changes.
On a personal note, I feel good that I got the vaccine. I think I’m going to need it because of my moving situation. People are asking if I’ve been vaccinated, and I am now able to tell them yes. One less obstacle to finding a new home. And I’m really not worried about problems in the future. I consider myself too valuable a player (as we all are) to be stopped in my tracks from offering all my services to the planet. We all have too much to do in helping with the ascension process. We are a protected bunch for sure.
I’m sure glad we have this forum to go to for discussion on this Covid vaccine subject. It’s an important subject to ponder.
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May 24, 2021 at 6:59 PM #321464
Catherine Viel
ModeratorThanks for the update, Pat. I look forward to hearing about nothing happening!
Hugs,
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May 24, 2021 at 7:36 PM #321466
MurrietaLight
ParticipantLOL! Let’s make a toast to nothing happening!
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May 24, 2021 at 7:55 PM #321468
Catherine Viel
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May 26, 2021 at 4:40 PM #321523
MurrietaLight
ParticipantUpdate: Nothing is happening. My arm feels normal and I am having no side effects from the jab. I feel normal today. And I’m not anticipating any changes.
Not only that, but I had a spiritual experience today that filled my heart with light, lightness, and inspiration. I am feeling that there is much for all of us to anticipate in the coming days, weeks, months…. Life is changing for the better. At least for everyone who wants to jump on that band wagon. And I do.
Light to everyone.
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May 26, 2021 at 7:14 PM #321526
Catherine Viel
ModeratorGood news! Thanks, Pat.
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May 30, 2021 at 6:04 PM #321723
Catherine Viel
ModeratorInteresting take on this topic. I thought of you, Pat!
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May 30, 2021 at 8:20 PM #321724
MurrietaLight
ParticipantThanks for posting that Catherine. It was really inspiring. One thing I noticed the next day after I got the jab, and every day since, is that I feel free!
I feel like I am a part of something big that is transpiring. I don’t have to hide or fight or try and resist anymore. Just go with the flow. And that feels freeing.
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May 31, 2021 at 4:45 AM #321734
OneRayLove
ParticipantHello Pat & Catherine,
Nice to see you have become close friends 🐱😉
Allow me to offer a perspective.
Imagine two people A and B … both radiating life at a total different frequency. Person A is full in the Matrix, where the Government are mostly trustworthy and try to protect the people they represent to the best of their ability. A also believes the virus is real and the vaccine is a weakend part of this virus, which will enable the body to create anti bodies. Person A is glad to finally receive a cure to help her against a killer virus. She considers this a good thing, projecting her truth onto it and subsequently receive this reality mirror back as love.
Now we have person B. She is awakened, daily practicing mastering her light, her emotions and her thoughts. She is also aware of many dimensions beyond the 3rd and most important her own soul God connection. She knows Earth, humanity is moving through ascension and on top of this she is aware of possibly “evil, dark” energies involved in the whole virus vaccine agenda. So person B projects a total different reality onto the vaccine itself.
After long and deep consideration she decides to take the vaccine anyway. Maybe because of “disarming ET” or other reasons, it matters not. She takes a leap of faith, trusting Self and God to guide her towards the best lesson and experience possible. In this aura All is blessed with unconditional love and any debris of fear and dark is blasted away. The “harmful” elements in the vaccine are neutralized and the body itself is mightily protected.However something miraculous happens in person B. She defeated an inner demon disguised as assisting warrior. She literally jumped over her own shadow. She enabled the inner angel to shine bright and vanish all “negative, dark and doubt” formerly attached. Even more so, she established courage and trust into the human collective quantum field.
This is what you did Pat!!!!
Take the credit, gratitude and love that you deserve. I see and know what you did and how your individual service became a service to All. Love you 😘💕😇
Hugs and Love 🤗
Ralph
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May 31, 2021 at 3:22 PM #321761
MurrietaLight
ParticipantWow Ralph! That was really beautiful. Your insight goes very deep. Thank you for posting this. It made me cry. I need to sit with this and ponder it awhile. You did me a great service by pointing out all you did of my journey. I feel validated from the outside world now, and the reason that looking outside of me is so important in this case is because I am trying to influence behavior, and it is working.
So I guess it’s not always about going within for answers. Sometimes, we need to look on the outside of us to make sure all that we are working toward is benefitting others. And I never thought of it this way before. Something to ponder further.
P.S. I would post emoticons, but I don’t know how to on this website. So, how do you find emoticons for posting here? Thx
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May 31, 2021 at 3:57 PM #321766
Catherine Viel
ModeratorI had a teary reaction, too, Pat. Truth tears.
As for emoticons…They are on the iPad keyboard, not sure how to get them on a computer. I know the smiley keyboard combos will turn into emoticons so you could try that, e.g., colon, dash, right parenthesis. Or capital D instead of parenthesis to get a grin.
Ralph probably knows. 😻
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May 31, 2021 at 6:41 PM #321770
MurrietaLight
ParticipantThank you Catherine.
Question: is that your therapy cat in your avatar? Are there therapy cats? I have had the pleasure of living with the best therapy dog on the planet, and I say that because I have never known such a good therapy dog. She is an angel in dog form.
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June 1, 2021 at 11:11 AM #321794
Catherine Viel
ModeratorHi Pat! That’s Wally. He and his brother Joey are our “pets.“ He would make a great therapy cat, though! He’s very friendly and outgoing. His former owner was a paraplegic and there were always a lot of caregivers and strangers in and out of that house so nothing much bothers him.
A therapy cat would be an anomaly. Cats don’t take well to being ordered about. Actually they don’t take to it at all…
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June 1, 2021 at 6:35 AM #321780
OneRayLove
ParticipantGlad you accept the “truth” I shine back on you … in gratitude of your Being.
What we humans always find difficult is the “chicken and egg” concept. We wrap our minds around it try to comprehend it in a linear model, so our brain can recognize it as “Good or Bad” or some classification in between.
The World however will never be linear and all attempt’s will always fail. Just as you accept your 2D mirror reflection isn’t you, you should at one point in time accept “your individual awareness” is just an aspect of who you are.
However, you are in the driver’s seat! So learn to drive “Higher Truth” rather than old human misconception!
Everything in the outside world hold all possibilities! You “choose” where to point YOUR awareness! This focus will Become your reality and when you hold your Light … it will materialize … come into manifestation! Why?
Because the “outside” holds your reflection! Interpreted into linear concept. You “first” send out intent as Light and this Light is reflected back to you always as “Love”. The “Love” you Feel.
“Inside” the human body, you do the same … in your body universe. You “breath” your inner held and felt “Love” through your Emotional Body into the Mental Body … Your Spiritual Self Awareness … transmute it into Intention as Light and radiate this Out into the World you Create around you!
So you Are the “Chicken” inside the “Egg”!
Focus on what you want … and your answers will come to you!
Focus on what you desire to come about … and it will be realized!When you witness “the emptiness” around the “absence” of presumed “Not”!!! … you know you discovered a layer of “fear” inside … presenting you with a new opportunity to Self (remember, rediscover, clear) Love 💕
We All know this!!! We are collectively returning and remembering. We are helping each other to speak up from within, being honest truthful and courageous.
Love you 😘🌈😇
Ralph
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June 1, 2021 at 12:45 PM #321795
AnaelTheRoseAngel
ParticipantI feel a lot of internal conflict after reading your post. Right now, I feel no need and no desire to take the vaccine. I don’t fear it; I suppose it’s more a matter of principle.
I am a very rebellious person, but in a secretive way. If I butt heads with someone, I will pretend to concede, but then do what I was going to do anyway. This kind of situation doesn’t happen often though because I’d rather come to a compromise on most things. It’s when someone imposes a rule upon me that I disagree with with my entire being that I will do whatever I can to not follow it.
I cannot ignore the malicious origins of the vaccine, that it was originally designed to kill us. Getting the jab would go against my principles, so I will avoid getting it for as long as I can.
If my job were put in jeopardy, I would concede, but only because I’m not risking just my own life and livelihood, I’m risking my husband’s as well.
Your perspective on receiving the vaccine makes me feel like a spoiled and foolish child, to be frank with you, but I know that is not your intent. I guess hearing your thoughts on my stance would be valuable.
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June 1, 2021 at 2:25 PM #321801
OneRayLove
ParticipantHi Alex,
I am NOT taking the vaccine either!! Nor am I in any shape or form propagating anyone to take it!!! Not for proving your strength or mastery.
This is all about shifting your own perspectives and beliefs. All depends on what they hold currently and from what kind of direction you travelled to arrive at your current Now.
If anyone arrive at a crossroad … any will do … and decide to Trust in God and Self, this is always a victory for the person and ona larger scale for the collective and One and All.
Sorry if anyone gets the wrong impression from anything I try to express. The Lights holds pure intent … that’s all I can do from “my side” when I am aware of expressing it out.
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June 1, 2021 at 3:10 PM #321807
AnaelTheRoseAngel
ParticipantI know that you didn’t mean any harm, but I am glad that I am not the only one who feels this way.
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June 1, 2021 at 3:34 PM #321809
OneRayLove
ParticipantI typed some more, but it got initially lost in “edit” … so I accepted it as … Everything happens for a reason!
What I wanted to add was something that might “assist” people. I myself will never take or do something, which holds an energy of “protection unless …”. I know once in my human life, this was “true”, but since then I have evolved.
So for my current state of awareness … the virus is “fake” and the “vaccine” holds “lower than my current light” … it is promoted as a “protection unless …”. I consider myself stronger, higher and beyond this vibration.
Nevertheless I can observe and “tune in” to other people holding another perspective … radiating this out into the human collective reality.
Having walked through my “door”, crossed my “borders”, having recollection of standing before an obstacle or crossroad myself … I know it takes faith, trust and courage. I admire any person overcome a challenge, facing doubt and “fear” debris.Everything I wrote was and most always is about empowerment, admiration and gratitude. My expressions of Light are in a way saying … “thank you … I see you … I love you” 💕💓
Observing a person and feeling where they are at, is remembering having been there before.
Anyway … Love and hugs as always.
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June 1, 2021 at 5:22 PM #321818
Catherine Viel
ModeratorVery nice, Ralph—
Everything I wrote was and most always is about empowerment, admiration and gratitude. My expressions of Light are in a way saying … “thank you … I see you … I love you” 💕💓
Observing a person and feeling where they are at, is remembering having been there before.
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May 31, 2021 at 3:53 PM #321765
Catherine Viel
ModeratorLovely, Ralph, thank you!
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May 31, 2021 at 5:33 PM #321767
MurrietaLight
Participant😊😂❤👌😁
I looked it up on the Internet. On a computer, place the cursor where you wish to type the emoticon. Press the Windows key then the period key. You may also press the Windows key then the semicolon. A window pops up.
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June 1, 2021 at 6:01 AM #321779
OneRayLove
ParticipantDidn’t know this … now I do 🙏
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June 1, 2021 at 11:07 AM #321793
Catherine Viel
ModeratorNow we’re all smarter! Thanks, Pat.😁
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June 1, 2021 at 3:21 PM #321808
Catherine Viel
ModeratorAlex and Ralph, thank you for your posts. Your interchange was enlightening and I really appreciate it.
Alex, I think that it was probably very hard for Pat to share her decision to get the vaccine here on this forum. From what I can gather, most readers who frequent this blog are aware that the purpose of vaccines in general is not beneficial. And the Covid vaccine in particular appears to have been designed as a bioweapon and method of wiping out a large number of humans. So I’m pretty sure most readers of this blog are declining the jab. I know I’m not getting it and I am not allowing anyone to give it to my mom, either. I would go to court first. (Or move to Florida, whichever is most expeditious! Probably Florida.)
That said, we still have free will and we still make our own choices. For what it’s worth, I am not sure I would keep a job if they demanded that I get this vaccine. And yet, you have just illustrated the dilemma that no doubt many people are facing right now. It could mean jeopardizing your and your husband’s survival if your restaurant work required you to get the vaccine, and you elected to quit your job and lose income that you and your husband rely on rather than get the jab.
Like I said, interesting and enlightening discussion. I appreciate all of us for our openness.
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June 1, 2021 at 3:36 PM #321810
AnaelTheRoseAngel
ParticipantThank you for your perspective Catherine. I want to make it known that I don’t see Pat’s decision as a bad thing, I understand her perspective and I’m happy that she’s happy. I was genuinely second guessing my choices because I always want to be as loving as possible. I thought that I might be fighting something that isn’t worth fighting for, but even as I was hesitating, my heart kept telling me to not get the vaccine. I just want people to be happy. At the very least, I think an informed and carefully considered decision to get vaccinated is better than getting it blindly so things will “go back to normal.” In my opinion, things will never be as they were, but we will create something better.
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June 1, 2021 at 5:23 PM #321819
Catherine Viel
ModeratorAt the very least, I think an informed and carefully considered decision to get vaccinated is better than getting it blindly so things will “go back to normal.”
I think that’s the key differential, Alex. Nicely put.
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June 2, 2021 at 3:03 AM #321829
OneRayLove
ParticipantI am a very rebellious person, but in a secretive way. If I butt heads with someone, I will pretend to concede, but then do what I was going to do anyway. This kind of situation doesn’t happen often though because I’d rather come to a compromise on most things. It’s when someone imposes a rule upon me that I disagree with with my entire being that I will do whatever I can to not follow it.
Did go back to read over some of the dialogue … also to learn if maybe I did express myself “incorrect” or possibly multi interpretable (dualistic??). Anyway, this is an “old” habit to second guess myself, which did lead to “self doubt” in the past. I do know I hold my highest intent in All expressions, especially the written ones. So if this Light goes of into the World it has to shine and do the creations it needs to do … lifting up or uncovering shades of “lower light”.
Anyway, I liked your description of your “rebellious person” very much Alex. Don’t know how familiar this description is for others, but it definitely describes me as well perfectly! So thanks. Will borrow this for my own resume 😉😘
Much love and hugs 💞💕💓
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June 2, 2021 at 4:25 AM #321830
AnaelTheRoseAngel
ParticipantI think a lot of people act that way, probably more than we imagine.
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June 2, 2021 at 2:34 PM #321869
Catherine Viel
ModeratorRebels are popular for a reason. I agree, there’s a lot more of that than we may be aware of. Everyone has a point beyond which they can’t be pushed, imo, and if it happens, watch out for the rebel emerging!
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July 15, 2021 at 5:16 PM #323780
MurrietaLight
ParticipantI am curious how it’s going with those of you who chose not to get vaccinated. Are you wearing masks wherever you go, or are you just defying the mandates? I’ve been going maskless for quite awhile now. But I just read today that Los Angeles is going to reinstate it’s mask mandate starting Saturday, and it goes for those who have been vaccinated and those who haven’t. I guess there has been an uptick of cases of covid. Gee, when is it going to end?
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July 16, 2021 at 1:24 AM #323811
OneRayLove
ParticipantHow could you do that Pat … you know this is Catherine’s favorite topic 😂😂😂
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July 16, 2021 at 3:49 PM #323858
Catherine Viel
ModeratorNo, my FAVORITE topic is masks! 🤪
Xo
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July 15, 2021 at 10:36 PM #323807
Catherine Viel
ModeratorHmmm defying the mandates? I think of it more as ignoring an absurd governmental request because after all, mandates are not actually enforceable.😆 I don’t even look at the signs that tell me to wear a mask because I’m not vaccinated. I actually find them insulting and discriminatory. Maybe this is a bit what it feels like to be a minority?
I vaguely remember something about LA going back to masks for everybody. There were some mentions in the Santa Barbara news sources, as in, “but Santa Barbara won’t be doing that.“ After which I forgot about it.
My (hopefully incorrect) sense is that they are actually gearing up to keep the kids out of school for another year. They will claim that there’s more cases and new variants and it’s so dangerous and oh my.
I don’t know when it’s going to end! I can’t believe it’s still going on!
That’s my assessment at the moment. I hope others will chime in on this.
Love,
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July 16, 2021 at 1:51 AM #323812
OneRayLove
ParticipantLove it when you start talking about this subject Catherine. It’s also kind of funny.
You see there is a “script” being played out in the world. This script could be interpreted in many different ways, but let’s reduce it to two … the Cabal script on one end … and the Divine Plan on the other.
So, do we Lightworkers need a wakeup call? My guess is no. So what is our lesson then?
This is for everyone to decide at any moment, especially when they allow to open up themselves to stay in the asking moment and feel the (K)Now!!
For me it was almost always the same in past ridiculous mask and virus … outside in manipulation. Stay centered, hold my Light and Know this isn’t my script to react to … in any way. Neutralize the energy as much as possible. So no resistance to the outside for me, no demonstration, no specific action other than my inner calm, peace and mastering self.
And yes, try to maximize escape and avoid this madness breathing freely whenever possible.
I want change!!! The world need to change and the people sleeping need to hear, see and feel! So I am glad with the “script” … as this is only a 3D interpretation in a separated reality.
In my daily almost constant reality … I Know All is One … All is as it should be.Move to the center of the Law of Attraction … you will find you don’t attract Nothing … No one can or will harm you there … You are mightily protected … better even, there is no need for protection as there is only Love 💖
That’s where I go, while holding onto a vision of 5D paradise 🌍🌈
Love you all 💓💞💕🙏
Ralph
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July 16, 2021 at 4:51 PM #323869
MurrietaLight
ParticipantOn my walk this morning I thought of you, Catherine, and this popped into my brain. You are a born leader. In my view, leaders need time alone to think about their strategy and about all the things they need to think about in order to do their work. In so many ways, you seem so fearless compared to most people I’ve met.
Seems to me that people who can’t submit to the “arbitrary” authority of others have a better way to offer, a way that is healthy and more light-filled, and that is part of the big problem they have of going along with low-level thinkers. You simply know a better way and that’s what you hold out for.
You are a spiritual warrior for sure.
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July 16, 2021 at 7:11 PM #323874
Catherine Viel
ModeratorThanks, Pat, what a lovely compliment! If I’m ever called upon to lead, I can only hope I’d do so wisely and well. And humbly.
Despite your renunciant’s bent, do you see yourself as a leader? I can. 🥰
Leadership, what it is and how we define it, might make an excellent new thread…
Xo💞💓🌈💓💞
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July 16, 2021 at 5:30 AM #323821
MurrietaLight
ParticipantI took the vaccine because I felt confident that its harmful effects had been eliminated by our spiritual friends, and also because I wanted to move through society without any type of mental, emotional or physical encumbrance. And in my experience, I wasn’t even thinking about covid anymore. I was moving freely about and so were the people in my community, to a large extent. People are so ready to get on with their new lives… I don’t know what else to say.
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July 16, 2021 at 5:44 AM #323822
OneRayLove
ParticipantYes Pat, you nailed it … for you!! Equally, you took a major leap of faith a while back. You “neutralized” any possible harm for you! … and you needed to “move forward” … both actually physical as well as … yes spiritual too! Stepping into your highest truest Light.
With that you “showed” a way forward for others within “possible fear”.
Now that you have moved beyond, there is nothing left for you to “learn” in relation to a “lesson learned”!
We all have our own lessons. Mine is possibly related to “speaking up” and moving passed “shadows” of isolation … still feeling my way daily. No rush anyway, because I know when have passed the current challenge … a new exciting one awaits me hahahaha 😂
Nice to pick up your energy is far more stable, balanced and strong Pat. Thanks for holding on and showing the way 😘🥰🌈
Ralph
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July 16, 2021 at 4:27 PM #323863
MurrietaLight
ParticipantRalph, thank you as always for your insight. You help me realize things I wouldn’t on my own. Very valuable information.
And I hear you about there being no rush to learn a lesson because there is always one right behind it, ready to tackle.
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July 16, 2021 at 3:57 PM #323859
Catherine Viel
ModeratorIt’s funny, I was really jolted when Pat said she was getting the vaccine. Her reasoning about it was perfectly logical as well as from her heart, so I understood it intellectually, but it was just kind of wrenching. A light worker, voluntarily getting the jab?!
After I got over that, which didn’t take long, I realized that it doesn’t matter how I feel about it or think about it, it’s how Pat feels and thinks about it. And she is perfectly fine! So I am perfectly fine with it too.
I love what you said, Ralph, about passing through our challenges and luckily, there’s always a new one to meet and greet and dance with.🤪😆
I say that in a little bit of a joking way, but really, sometimes I wonder, what would I do if I didn’t have problems deal with? Would I have nothing to write about?? Good golly, what a horrible thought.🙀
Love,
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July 16, 2021 at 4:35 PM #323866
MurrietaLight
ParticipantCatherine, I hear you about your thoughts on me getting the vaccine, but I have to say that it took a lot of trust and a leap of faith for me to get it. I had to jump off the bridge of the unknown into mid air, with no safety net below. That’s how it felt. I had to allow myself to believe that there are Galactics out there who are truly looking out for all of humanity, otherwise all the stuff we read and channel and put out there is all a bunch of looney talk. So I jumped.
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