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July 19, 2021 at 5:06 AM #323986
OneRayLove
ParticipantMy dear friends,
I would like to discover the topic of “emptiness” with you all. In my passed and current awareness, there is definitely some very interesting observations to ponder about, express and re-discover.
As I am doing some “new” exploring in this area, I would like to do that together.
Thanks for all speaking up or come along.
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July 19, 2021 at 5:08 AM #323987
OneRayLove
ParticipantEmptiness
The more I am within self discovery, my feelings I experience in every moment, the more I seem to circle around emptiness.
The more I have evolved myself out of the need to label, the more I appear to have passed a level of control. Beyond a level of control, definitely for me feels as a step up, away from fear and all attachments it holds.
How strange there appears to be more flow in a space of emptiness, than beyond it!
My guess as I hold a majority of human awareness in my physical awake state, is we as humans hold an understanding, feeling and definition for emptiness as close to nothing, no existence, no activity, no movement, no progress and of course to death … as the supposed opposite of life (in a dualistic consciousness of All).
So it makes perfect sense as a human, to not actually look in the direction that feels contra productive intuitively to the awareness you hold, when you desire to improve yourself!Only when you allowed yourself to truly hold an awareness beyond the mere physical, reality body and awareness … you start to “think out of the box”, which in fact is rather a “in and beyond the box” you have self identified with for a very long time!
As I have found something “new” and exiting for me, following the breadcrumbs of my feelings in every moment, I know there is much more to discover in this direction. The first thing I start to become aware of is “peace”. Of course I did run past this feeling many times in life, but never noticed it for what it actually was. Why?
Because I was to busy gaining love … as a sensation of appreciation, value and worth for my “self identification responses” in any moment, even the perceived “insufficient” ones from personal past. So in this almost constant state of being, I was never satisfied. Also, I labeled “peace” as a feeling of being out of a fight, no confrontation and freedom to act.
This level of “peace” held a limited understanding as it was “just” beyond the awareness I held, about “All I didn’t like” but longed for.
Now I slowly start to discover the former unknown and passed the old “lower” awareness I ones held and strongly self identified with, individually and non individual, the outer space of me!

Thank you for allowing yo express myself 💕💞💓🌈🙏
Ralph
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July 20, 2021 at 2:07 AM #324036
Julien
ParticipantDear Ralph,
Thank you for this insight into your experiences, as well as for this weird but quite fascinating picture! Is it of a bubble being pumped into a dense liquid?
Congratulations on your transition from “gaining love” to “having peace” my friend! Have fun with it and please keep up posted about how it unfolds! 😊
I used to think of emptiness as “completely nothing” as well, in a 3D context. I agree that it’s a dual and illusory perspective, in that there truly exists nothing apart from One… so how could there be “Zero”?
Nowadays, I’d have to resort to oxymora such as “plentiful emptiness” to describe my experiences. It is, I feel, absence of form but not of consciousness or flow. There’s no “thing” to observe, but it’s abundant nonetheless. Hard to describe using 3D language, really…Based on my meditation practice, I’ve found that keeping a firm and constant foundation of mettā (loving kindness), samādhi (collectedness, which I read as “tranquil concentration”) and sati (mindfulness) provides great stability. It combines a deep flow of Love, a peaceful and tranquil presence and the clarity of awareness. Much as a stool needs at least three legs to stand upward, I find this kind of inner triads really helpful to Being in the Now without “striving”, especially when they combine a stimulating, a soothing and an “awarening” element. It usually avoids me diving back into duality and separation.
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July 20, 2021 at 9:41 AM #324045
MurrietaLight
ParticipantI admit that you guys go far out into a perspective that I cannot grasp, and so I’ll just add my experience of emptiness. It’s like being in a void. Or in the doldrums. You don’t go anywhere, you are just in this one spot, and the questions is, what is the lesson here? Or maybe the reality is that you just need to be in this spot of “percolation” for awhile so that all that you’ve been previously working on comes together.
If you fight against emptiness like I always do, you prolong the process, and you make it less enjoyable. I guess that every state we can become aware of is one we have the option and privilege to pursue, that is one way to look at it. Or you can be like me and fight it. Emptiness, being in the void, being in the doldrums has beauty and purpose, far beyond what we can grasp while inside the experience. It’s only on the other side of the experience that you find the answers you seek.
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July 21, 2021 at 1:11 AM #324077
OneRayLove
ParticipantHi Pat,
I sort of can tell by your wording … you haven’t “pinpointed” it yet … maybe because it is passed fighting and even action in general. However, we all hold a Knowing around this almost “lack of sensation”. Again, I am still on a discovery myself and will keep posting about it.
I do very much appreciate everyone to speak up and try to connect to all we have to offer here in this remarkable place. So thanks for searching and expressing🙏
Also in general I can tell you are exploring far stronger energies as of lately. I like it and would like to encourage you to keep on this path 🌄🕯️🐢😁🤭
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July 20, 2021 at 9:31 PM #324074
Catherine Viel
ModeratorEmptiness is on the other side of a sorrow so hard you can’t believe you survived it.
Xo
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July 21, 2021 at 1:17 AM #324078
OneRayLove
ParticipantThe other day I was rereading your emptiness post … and didn’t pick up the same energy as you express now.
It’s like … and yes always consider the limitations of words, but now it holds the memory of a “dark feeling” you nearly escaped. While in your post I sense a “victory feeling”.Anyway, thanks as always Catherine 💓💞💕🌈🙏😘
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July 21, 2021 at 7:48 PM #324129
Catherine Viel
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July 21, 2021 at 3:10 AM #324080
OneRayLove
ParticipantHad a very nice and enlightened chat with Julien about this very subject. We both agreed this could be informative for others as well. So I’ll try to copy the chat into here …


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July 21, 2021 at 3:11 AM #324082
OneRayLove
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July 21, 2021 at 3:14 AM #324083
OneRayLove
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Ps. Equally found out that the maximum amount of images in a single post … is currently set to 2. Beyond that you probably end up in the moderator approval section hahahahahaha 😉
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July 21, 2021 at 9:15 PM #324132
Catherine Viel
ModeratorAh, the limitations of the forum…I don’t know why there’s an image limit. Maybe a storage max.
At any rate, interesting chat, thanks for pasting it here!
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July 22, 2021 at 2:32 PM #324170
Pink Rose
ParticipantHi Ralph and all,
Some people refer to emptiness as the state that can be reached in meditation, and described like an absence of thoughts and activities in general. From 3D mind’s point of view it really can look like emptiness, as the usual mind’s content seems not to be there.
When looking from another perspective, experience it with your Heart, it appears as a fullness, a wholeness. That’s how I feel it.
This is the state we can experience while listening the silence, deep diving within, surrounded by unpreceded inner peace.
It is a still point. The rich potential field.In my experience this zero point acts like a transient point between two states of consciousness.
Reaching it you can find yourself in deep peace, serenity, joy and love. The waves of Love are forming a river, which is flowing through us. In that state there is almost no distinction between the observer and the observed, as all feels the same, the River is just flowing…
With this practice of meditation consciousness is expanding…Love & Light,
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July 22, 2021 at 10:41 PM #324180
Catherine Viel
ModeratorWonderful, Nena, thank you!
May I ask how you meditate? I’ve tried, but…(there’s a meditation thread on the forum where I wrote about it at length, I can find it if you’re interested)
Thanks,
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July 23, 2021 at 5:31 AM #324187
OneRayLove
ParticipantThank you Nena 🙏,
This sounds wonderful. It also appears you found some knowledge as to how to manage and possibly increase these feelings, this flow. I myself am still very much in the process of observation, while figuring out was is different, what has changed, did something add into the mix or is it the absence of something I know has been there definitely for a long time.
Equally if I know what changed, how did it change and how can I master this awareness and energy flow. I at least figured out where I spend much of my life searching … and now it appears to be on the flip side of action, of searching all together.
Anyway … I will keep exploring myself in mastering my own knowing and energy flow, blessing all with love in the process, trying to maximize the feelings as I observe them.
Please keep posting your experience and assistance, it’s greatly appreciated 💕💓💞🌈🙏
Ralph
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July 23, 2021 at 2:26 PM #324246
Pink Rose
ParticipantHi Catherine and Ralph,
Thank you for your kind replies.
Regarding my meditation practice, it is actually very simple.
I’ll try to describe it the best I can.
Find a quiet place where you can sit upright with your legs on the floor (or in yoga position if you prefer so). Imagine you are connecting down to the crystalline Heart of Lady Gaia (Mother Earth) and upwards through your higher chakras to your Higher Self, Soul and I AM Presence. When connected properly you can begin to breathe deeply, focusing on inhaling and exhaling. After a while (when you feel relaxed and comfortable) you go (I just move my consciousness) to your Heart chakra. Continue with deep breathing and be present in the moment. Be there and feel.These are the basic meditation steps.
The secret is to BE in the moment, fully present in the NOW. Don’t try to think or analyze anything. Don’t doubt in your ability to meditate.
Set a clear intention that you will meditate for your highest good and connect to your Higher Divine Self that will guide you in the meditation. If you feel so inclined you may call some of the Ascended Masters or Archangels to help you in meditation, as well.For me it is always a wonderful experience.
When we relax and surrender to our divine guidance, we are guided and protected. All we have to do is trust and follow the guidance. Go with the flow.Once we are connected, in the Flow, we can feel it.
A deep sense of Peace and Serenity comes first. Then the Heart becomes full of Joy and Love. I can feel the Light waves of Love flowing through me, around me, feeling like I’m immersed in an ocean of Love.I hope I have been able to bring you closer to how I experience a typical meditation. Of course not all meditations are the same. Some may have a specific purpose, like healing or sending Love & Light to Mother Earth, Humanity etc.
Even if we do not set a specific purpose, Love and Light radiate around having a huge positive impact. The most important thing is to bring ourselves into that state in which we are a pure channel for Light and Love.with Love and Light, 😊💓
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July 24, 2021 at 8:08 PM #324285
Catherine Viel
ModeratorThank you, Nena, a simple yet very profound method of meditating! At the moment I can’t sit comfortably in any yoga position, so I’ll sit upright. I like the “connecting” downward and upward. I’ve seen that in other instructions, but you describe it in a way that makes it approachable.
Thank you so much! I will try it tomorrow. Sunday seems a good day to start a new spiritual practice. 😻🙏😇
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July 25, 2021 at 8:19 AM #324303
OneRayLove
ParticipantHello Nena (your name always reminds me of a German pop group in the eighties hahahahaha 😉). Thank you for these nice “instructions” to move yourself into Being.
Many things you express here, like ….
The secret is to BE in the moment, fully present in the NOW. Don’t try to think or analyze anything.
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For me it is always a wonderful experience.
When we relax and surrender to our divine guidance, we are guided and protected. All we have to do is trust and follow the guidance. Go with the flow.Once we are connected, in the Flow, we can feel it.
A deep sense of Peace and Serenity comes first. Then the Heart becomes full of Joy and Love. I can feel the Light waves of Love flowing through me, around me, feeling like I’m immersed in an ocean of Love.So I relate to How to get into the “inner connection” and yes I equally know at times to reach the sensations around my heart core … but equally I at times feel a “nothingness”. This is the “emptiness” I am discovering.
You see, it could be related to the fact of meditating itself. For when One steps away into “me time” and goes into connection with your Divine Self, where the Heart IS much more pure, connected and balanced with reality than the stomach or the head … you are in a sense Grounding in Higher Self and Love 💕, which you feel as energy moving and releasing All that isn’t “pure” as to your Highest core.
As I try to Be in this state constantly and not so much … go as step into an activity of meditation … I feel my Self ever more present in All moments of awareness as One!
Then you at times don’t feel the release of “lower” energy or awareness, but you observe “emptiness” around a feeling of “good”.Hope this makes sense to “others” …
I am still looking into the experience itself as also the words to express it.Anyway, thanks for speaking up and helping this search lol 😂 💞💓💕🌈😘
Ralph
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July 25, 2021 at 2:14 PM #324312
Pink Rose
ParticipantHi Ralph, I wish you luck in your discovering process.
Every practice guided by Higher Self is always good and valuable experience.
By the way, I know there was a band or singer named Nena in Germany but my name is not related to it in any way.😊-
July 25, 2021 at 2:57 PM #324313
OneRayLove
Participant💕💓💞🌈🙏 Hahaha They were actually good and also popular. If you understand German you could listen to this song, which was their greatest hit … https://youtu.be/Fpu5a0Bl8eY
I myself liked more this one https://youtu.be/TC7qOMyuBjQAnyway, brings back some nice memory. Thanks for reminding 🙏
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July 26, 2021 at 5:02 PM #324359
Catherine Viel
ModeratorNice techno-pop! Even if I don’t understand German. 🤩
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July 27, 2021 at 5:39 AM #324397
OneRayLove
ParticipantYes, sounds really “different” when you are in an “older” position looking back at it 😂😂
They also released an English version of their hit song about “99 air balloons”, but it is terrible from my perspective having recollection and emotions to the original 😉💞💓💕😘
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July 27, 2021 at 3:27 PM #324427
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July 29, 2021 at 6:53 AM #324491
OneRayLove
ParticipantHello my dear friends,
In this moment now I feel like in a need to take a “snapshot” of myself too! Why the “too”?
Because I usually do this if I feel an inner response in relation to something on the “outside”. These are the moments I love … as to use all my gifts, my intuition, my clarity and my knowing to assist the “other” part of me … another soul.
These are the moments I feel uplifted and guided … to have an inner “value” of contributing, to Be Love and flow out in the maximum Light I intend to represent … express … and to Be honest … Observe myself doing it.Now in this moment while writing and just before, I feel “empty”. A very old familiar “friend” called loneliness tries to get a grip of me … nagging on a “weakness” as having no worth without a connection to “outer” aspect of me as the individual human self.
I know his drill all to well … I know how it starts … and I definitely know where “it wants me” to finish.
So knowing this path, seeing all the markers, knowing they aren’t true … but still walking as close to the edge as possible … is a rather strange phenomenon, is it not? It’s like having fears of heights, but still go out on the ledge … very peculiar!?That’s why I have to take my inner “mastering self” tools of “capturing a snapshot of this now” in all it’s existence too. Just like the “social media” hype, don’t just put out your victories and photoshopped images out there … rather try to Be as authentic and complete as possible.
I tell you something else … while writing this moment down, as an acknowledgement of my self existence … without sugarcoating it … already appears to change the whole inner emotional field. Very remarkable.
Anyway a very special extra gratitude for allowing me to express myself 💓💕💞🌈🙏
Ralph
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July 29, 2021 at 7:35 PM #324530
Catherine Viel
ModeratorThat’s perfect, Ralph, thank you for clearly describing exactly what you’re going through.
Writing our experience changes the experience.
Xo💓💞🌈💞💓
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August 9, 2021 at 8:00 AM #324986
OneRayLove
ParticipantAdmitting
I guess it’s fair to admit to be an addict. I am addicted to an outside response, on which I can wallow myself in a feeling … a nice and lovely feeling of succes, good, useful or valued.
I need the awareness of both the action, created from my individual being … and this intended Light’s reflection … back in and at me, so I can transform it in the feelings of Love.
Also I am very much aware of how these interactions can be created … I have come to understand what I am good at and what not. But there is a problem with any addiction … it’s limited and only exist temporarily … having a beginning and therefore an end.

When I would do some honest observation, I have probably been an addict to all kind of sensations all my human life … without really realizing it most of the time.
Nowadays I enjoy helping people … help themselves … more than anything. Still it requires interaction and in my case people willing to freely accept … my input, my energy, my light … above all other awareness out there.
A master, teacher or healer always need “others” on the “lower” end of their “higher awareness” … to be the receiving ones … allow Light reflection to occur, so the sending source is allowed to self create Love.
This whole Light ~ Love cycle needs movement. Without movement and flow, there is “only” stillness. In the stillness the source creator is left within Now … all alone, observing who he was, what he did, ponder all … while reduced to One … and realizing Self.
Then the emptiness and absence of “others” as an input and means to boost his own Love value … becomes so much harder. There is only One left to assist, to help, to empower. Giving Light to One self … transforming it to Love within Self … is a true master creation.
Become a master at Creating Light and single handedly transform it into One Creation of Love … is a True Masterpiece. All Ones who achieve this level of mastery have indeed ascended themselves.
Admitting when you feel empty, lonely and hold memory of “better” … shouldn’t bring you down for things you lost … but rather acknowledgment for how close you are to Self realization.
Always know you are the only one to Feel how you Feel and Be aware. Admit to Be the Creator Source … there is only One Being feeling the way you do and Be Self Aware of it.
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I can’t imagine “others” don’t recognize, what I express here. Especially the spiritual seeking ones gathered here in this special place.
Please express and admit to yourselves sometimes to feel empty, probably lost … because being authentic about it and expressing your self is allowing us to join forces at the other end of this portal … becoming an authentic collective of ascended masters!!
Thank you all for allowing me to express myself 💓💕💞🌈🙏
Ralph
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August 9, 2021 at 2:55 PM #325022
MurrietaLight
ParticipantThat was very beautiful Ralph! Thank you for posting it. From the heart and food for pondering.
And believe me, I feel lonely and lost frequently. This big world is a confusing place to deal with. I write to help others navigate this earthly conundrum, by way of my experience. My intention is to allow others to be able to piggyback off of my experience so they don’t have to reinvent the wheel, so to speak.
Yes, we are joining forces to uplift all of us on this ascension journey.
Masters, indeed!
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