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September 3, 2021 at 9:24 AM #325987
In reference to https://goldenageofgaia.com/2021/09/03/microvaxxed/
The shots are risky, but notice that the woman demonstrating the “vaccinated arm” does not raise her sleeve.
It wouldn’t be hard for a vet tech to hide a pet tracking chip under the sleeve.
It also wouldn’t make sense for a supposed VAX tracking device to be compatible with pet chips, as that would make it easy to verify. However, note, we have no other verifications in the form of similar videos.
Also a pet chip is a fairly large device, it would not be able to be injected via a needle.
So none of this makes any sense.
Avoid the VAX, but also use logic to avoid the hoaxes, like this video.
September 3, 2021 at 9:29 AM #325988
Good morning! Thank you for bringing this up. I agree with your points, actually. I’m not sure I would go so far as to call it a hoax but I believe it is impossible for us to verify its validity. I have let Steve know.
September 3, 2021 at 9:33 AM #325989
I’m not sure where you get the impression the nurse is a vet nurse.
My impression was she was in a public hospital.
The video has two segments: The first in a veterinary hospital and the second in a public hospital.
I thought whoever put the video together tacked the vet video on to show the technology of chipping and scanning via the pet scenario.
I don’t regard it as a hoax. And please this is not a forum for conflictual communication. There are plenty of places for that in social media.
This is a sanctuary. We want to go deeper here and won’t if people communicate in ways that show hostility.
I’ve seen so many discussion groups go down the drain, starting with charges and countercharges. I’m committed that this will not be the case here.
September 3, 2021 at 12:38 PM #326001
> The first in a veterinary hospital and the second in a public hospital.
Consider why they might have animal cages in a public hospital.
Consider why they might have pet scanner in public hospital.
Unless I misunderstood.
I’m sorry that my pointing out misinformation is not acceptable.
Disappointing that the organization I’ve contributed to for years is not interested in alternative views.
September 3, 2021 at 12:51 PM #326003
For what it’s worth, I still agree with you. Whether the video is misinformation or simply something that we cannot validate, in my opinion it ought to be open to discussion. I appreciate your comments. Thank you!
September 3, 2021 at 12:49 PM #326002
I guess my larger point is that since the MSM is propaganda and lies, we have to collect our own news and info, and this is a lot of work that most people can’t be bothered to do. They believe what they read from alt sources, and are often misled into believing non-sense.
If we don’t do basic research, we’re going to wind-up believing flat earth theories, etc.
September 3, 2021 at 12:51 PM #326004
Again, I appreciate your comments!
September 3, 2021 at 1:01 PM #326005
Thanks to Catherine who’s allowed me to address you.
Well, you’ve raised a very interesting point, GoldJubilee, that I’m not sure what the answer to is.
I’ve been on so many discussion groups that started out with brave hopes and descended into mud-slinging. I guess the word “hoax” triggered me. Oh no. Don’t let it start here too, Lord.
I don’t want devolution to happen on my watch because I didn’t mention the subject soon enough. Now that it has arisen, I’d like to use the opportunity to discuss the matter. Everyone? Please join in.
I acknowledge that we all need to know what’s happening and I have nothing to say about that. It’s the tenor of the discussion that I’m more concerned with.
At the far end of this spectrum are meme wars, ridicule, polarization, etc. At the other end is a rigid puritanicalism which no one benefits from.
Even in the middle there will still be constraints on discussion groups. This group is to discuss recipes; this one is a fan club for this movie star. And it’s always a touchy subject when limits or constraints come up. Why do they come up?
(1) Because there will always be limits to any discussion group. And when the limits are surpassed and the share disallowed, there are most often cries of censorship. Even though the limits are stated.
(2) Because my human rights mean the constraint of behavior on someone else’s part. No hate literature means someone is constrained from publishing it. Freedom of speech is often freedom _from_ as well as freedom _to_ and that implies constraints.
(3) Because freedom of assembly and worship means a group has the right to say this space that we have created is for this special, spiritual purpose.
So constraint in a discussion group does happen. The question is: Under what circumstances?
My fondest hope is that we use this space to (1) share about ourselves in ways that push our edge emotionally and spiritually and result in spiritual advance and (2) listen to each other, without condemning, ridiculing, belittling, etc. What we talk about only comes next in importance, in my eyes.
(I just finished _A Manual for Listeners_ today and so the subject of communication is very much on my mind at this particular moment.)
In terms of what we talk about, I lean towards Ascension and a world that works for everyone. But that’s just me.
What about everyone else? What do you want to see come out of our communing/communicating in here? And what do you see as the limits on what should be posted here (if any)?
September 3, 2021 at 1:15 PM #326006
I am bowing out of this discussion for the moment, I’ve had enough grief dealing with the cable company for the last two days.🤓
September 3, 2021 at 1:57 PM #326008
Wow, a big apology to GoldJubilee!
I did not see that a vasana was going off. Later it exploded.
I’ve traced it back as far as “Comments” on the blog. Moderating “Comments” became such a chore and the discussion became so depressing that I finally let it go.
When I heard the word “hoax” I had two reactions: (1) It doesn’t appear to be a hoax to me, and (2) Oh, no, are we going to divide down into camps here and start throwing bricks at each other?
I make a distinction between the substance of the word “hoax” and the tenor of discussion nowadays associated with discussing a “hoax.” It’s fear that the tenor will devolve into name-calling that the vasana is about.
So I apologize, GoldJubillee. I don’t know whether the video is a hoax or not but I’ve taken it down.
September 3, 2021 at 1:58 PM #326009
That all sounds great to me, thanks for your clarifications, and sorry to trigger you.
If my tone was inappropriate, I apologize.
Thanks, Catherine Viel, for your support.
I guess my problem is that I love GAOG, and want it to be impeccable in the information shared because it is an important and rare resource, but I’m not the editor, so I have used the forum to share those concerns. We’ve worked together in the past, and changes have been made based on my inputs, and that is nice, but very rarely are there issues of this nature on the blog.
I’d like to be able to continue to help the blog with such matters, but I will try to be as delicate as possible if I feel inspired to do so again. Thank you.
September 10, 2021 at 5:49 PM #326301
Thank you, GoldJubilee. 🙏
September 3, 2021 at 2:02 PM #326010
> Moderating “Comments” became such a chore and the discussion became so depressing that I finally let it go
You can present people with evidence and facts, but if it doesn’t fit people’s mental model, the most common reaction is to become angry at you for challenging their worldview.
Lord, please bring on the 5D.
September 3, 2021 at 2:03 PM #326011
Not inappropriate at all. When the fire of the vasana goes out, I see nothing offensive in your communication.
September 3, 2021 at 2:05 PM #326012
Yes, I think I just demonstrated that, didn’t I?
Why not share a little about yourself, GJ?
What has your spiritual journey been?
September 3, 2021 at 2:55 PM #326013
As a young teenager (back in the early 80s) I was struck by an inner drive to understand what was really going on. I began with what I had, I read the New Testament front to back. This was good, but it was just the start. My seeking lead soon to Edgar Cayce and the wealth of information associated with his readings, learning about reincarnation and channelings. Also, Eastern philosophy studies, i.e. the forms and practices of Yoga. I became a vegetarian, a disciplined meditater, which ultimately resulted in a singular experience of temporarily merging partially with my higher self. Although comfortable with incredibly intense experiences with LSD and mushrooms, the strength and depth of this merging experience was so strong that I believed I would burn up, and I had to ask Source to turn down the juice. Decades later, as young adult, fell in Love with the Crystal Stair series, reading over and over to feel the high encoded energy while learning about about Ascension and (more about) the Galactic Federation, and the Ascended Masters. Eventually finding GAOG many years ago, and here I am. I am.
September 3, 2021 at 4:55 PM #326028Suzanne MarescaKeymaster
I’m glad that you’re here and taking part in the community.
And thank you for hanging in there through the challenging parts!
September 5, 2021 at 6:58 AM #326071
Thanks for that, Mark.
It’s interesting how alike our spiritual paths can be. Mine was like that as well.
September 3, 2021 at 4:30 PM #326021OneRayLoveParticipant
I admire the whole conversation here and all the people involved taking this to a very high level of … mutual respect, while being authentic to their feelings and intentions 💓🙏
“Everything happens for a reason” … this “event” definitely had some higher lessons.
Thank you all for communicating in the open here. This is a very nice example of … emphatic listening to others as well as to the inner feelings of Self.
September 3, 2021 at 5:40 PM #326029OneLoveParticipant
Can I chime in? It’s an apropos topic for these times! I read everything that all of you have submitted here, so far. I love how everyone is wanting peace, connection with the others, and wanting to know if there are limits that ppl on this forum want. So good to ask! I love this site and frequent it often, but am not on the forum much at all.
In this time of censoring that’s happening on social media platforms, many of us are wondering what we can/can’t/ should/shouldn’t say.
At the beginning of this year, I was in deep contemplation re how corruption, ‘evil’, control and hurting others has run unabated on our planet for too long, in my opinion. Wanting to know why it has not been quelled, and how ppl have been able to keep it going, and why the ‘good’ has not gotten the upper-hand in stopping the denser choices, or at least, causing the higher mind, heart and energies to be the dominant factor. On one day of that contemplation, I was reading part of a book that Robert David Steele promoted on his site, re child abuse, and I saw in detail, in my mind and heart, how corruption has kept its place as an insidious, seemingly impossible monster to tame. I was shown that the ‘evil’, etc., continues bc it thrives in darkness. When light is shined on it, it starts to dissipate, then lose its power. I saw how we have kept darkness alive by not bringing to light, anything and everything that is corrupt, or doesn’t sit right with us. We (our society, and much of the world) are used to not speaking up when we see injustice, ‘evil’, etc. We don’t know how, for one thing, and we, many times, have been taught, as a society, that we should be quiet. I feel that being quiet is my undoing. I feel that saying my thoughts/feelings when I have the desire to, especially to point out a misdeed against another sovereign being, is not only my right, but my obligation, if I really am promoting light. The how of doing this, became clear to me.
First, I am to acknowledge that everyone is a Sovereign being.
2.) I am my #1 priority.
3.) I am to shine light on Truth in everything that I do.
4.) I am Pure Love, and feeling (not emoting) that in every moment is my right and responsibility.
5.) I am to declare what I see, when it’s not in line with Truth, that another has demonstrated. That last one can be the difficult one to implement, since it hasn’t been a common action that I’ve practiced. I must never call anyone a name bc they’re the one doing the corrupt action. Never attack/discredit the messenger. But find creative ways to call out their act, without boldly embarrassing them in front of others.
There was much more that came to me about how to promote the higher thoughts/feelings, and to squelch the lower. It was all mostly to remember to shine light on Truth.
Of course it’s a kind measure to be aware as to how the message will go across to the one that we’re wanting to bring awareness to.
For Truth to prevail, Justice and Love will be dominant.
If I’m coming across too strong in this post (knowing that most of us have our triggers), it can be a fine art that we learn to associate with others in a way that supports the Light, while being understanding. There’s no need for mudslinging, when everyone’s best interest is at heart, and everyone understands that we’re Truth tellers for the Highest Good.
I know that I went slightly off topic from the question asked by Steve, but I thought that what I wrote could add a little to the conversation about how that bringing Truth to Light is always the best measure.
I, personally, don’t have limits on what to talk about, but just being sure that it will all be relayed appropriately. <3
September 5, 2021 at 6:37 AM #326070
Thanks for that thoughtful discussion, OneLove, which I will study.
After two days of extreme discomfort, while the vasana that was triggered slowly bubbled to the surface, I now know what I triggered in myself. At 5 am this morning, I awoke with a realization and the vasana settled down (proving the explanation was germane).
In 2009, I was the founder of Galactic Roundtable discussion group. However I came down with colitis, which was extremely debilitating. I could no longer manage the group and so the team helped me to found the 2012 Scenario blog, which later became the Golden Age of Gaia, to help me while away the recovery time.
Fast forward to 2012 and the Interplanetary Council extended an invitation to the blog to bring a small group aboard the New Jerusalem.
I did not at time realize how challenging it is for them to be around us Third-Dimensional types, who are like Neanderthals to them. I allowed the group to get too big and the galactics cancelled the trip.
In the hubbub that ensued, the moderation team asked me to end my ownership of the discussion group, which I did. The moderator who was most triggered started a blogsite dedicated to revealing my errors. It was a very difficult time.
When Mark used the word “hoax,” unknown to me or him, it reactivated the memories of that time, which were some of the most difficult of my lightworking career.
It’s taken two days of processing to locate the memory at issue.
My apologies again to Mark.
Every discussion group does have limits on discussion so, given that you’ve shown a willingness to discuss them, why don’t we continue?
I regret that time considerations, generally, don’t allow me to keep current with your discussions in general.
September 5, 2021 at 11:54 AM #326084OneRayLoveParticipant
I read this with great interest. Thank you for sharing and equally give us some background into your journey as the editor in chief. From my part, I’ve never “understood” the “limitation” for interaction or comment completely. Makes better sense now 🙏🙏
I joined the 2012 Scenario blog in 2012 and also the forum or discussion group “part” of it at that time. The moderators back then, decided at one time to block me from participating (I gave them a “wrong” impression by asking questions).
This caused a great personal emotional hit back then. Just as now, I was looking for a better and deeper spiritual understanding. For me it has always been “logical” to interact with others, compare experience, understanding and share observations and questions.
After this painful experience to been misinterpreted and “accused” for having the intention to disturb a sacred place … I needed to find my inner spiritual truth on my own.
Reading your “spiritual struggles, self analysing and interpretations” helped me through quite some lonely and difficult times. I will always appreciate and be grateful for that 🙏🙏🙏
Please know that you as a soul and person have gathered quite a large group of equally seeking souls around you (your collective self). Speaking from my own experience … you “triggered and inspired” many times with your articles.
Also probably just as many times, when I found myself just on the opposite of your freely offered views … still initiated a Light wave.
This forum, took away the “limitations” for not having a response opportunity … for me!! Still I guess many are “holding” an inner need to interact and response … especially to you as initiator and source of your posts (observe the many emails??).
Finally … my personal truth. Interacting on spiritual topics and experiences will always gain a wider and higher spiritual awareness … for all involved. Sending and writing “out” is nice … however, “empathic listening” as a part of interactive communication holds a higher frequency for both speed and openness. It will allow observers to stay closer to the now and their core knowing.
Ultimately … I do think the past spiritual community was better of without comments. Why?
There was an “emotional purging need” to first clear and grow individually. Now I think we as a “Light Holding Collective”, have evolved individually and collectively to be ready to respectfully interact … this forum proofs it to some degree.
Thank you for allowing me to express myself 💓💞💕🌈🙏😘
September 10, 2021 at 6:02 PM #326303
I’m glad you’re here, Ralph. 😘🥰
September 10, 2021 at 6:01 PM #326302
I finally read this whole thread. Thanks to all who contributed here.
I especially appreciate this from OneLove:
I feel that being quiet is my undoing. I feel that saying my thoughts/feelings when I have the desire to, especially to point out a misdeed against another sovereign being, is not only my right, but my obligation, if I really am promoting light.
I’ve been on a seesaw most of my life, but especially in childhood, of wanting to be heard but needing to be quiet.
Writing can give me both and I feel extremely fortunate to have landed here as a contributing writer. I can be quiet in my real life, if I wish, and still speak out electronically through the ethers.
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