Transcript: Nancy Tate on The Light Agenda – Part 2/2
Channeller, writer, author – and singer! – Nancy Tate was my guest on The Light Agenda on August 15, 2012.
We enjoyed a great chat about Andromedan ships, Horus, St Germain, Hatonn, her association with Mike Quinsey and SaLuSa, Inner Earth, Hollow Earth, her books, her CDs and her much-travelled life journey and what lies ahead.
You can listen to the full show here: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/inlight_radio/2012/08/16/the-light-agenda
This is Part 2 of the transcript; we ended yesterday’s transcript – http://goldenageofgaia.com/2012/10/transcript-nancy-tate-on-the-light-agenda-part12/ – talking about Nancy’s book The Menorah.Thanks to the lovely Ellen for her transcription talents.
Stephen Cook: Well, you enjoyed it so much, though, that you then went off and wrote a children’s book called Grandmother Ellie’s Attic. So, tell me a little bit about that and how that came about.
Nancy Tate: [laugh] Well, I was… friends, a couple of friends and I got together one day, and one of them had this idea, “Let’s write this book, about such and such.” And so, I, just from the few words that she said, I just, she said, “Okay. You’re the one that can write. I’m the one that can do the business part of it.” And the other one, you know, make little things to go with it.
And so I wrote the first page. And they said, “Oh, this is great.” And we were going to do quite a different thing with it than I did, because in the process, over the years — another book that it took me 10 years to write! — both of the other friends, the dear friends, have passed. And so I, at some point, realized, okay, this is what I… I have to do it this way. I’m not going to do it the way we were going to, because it’s no longer suitable, and so forth.
So, it’s a series of chapters, each chapter with a different story of adventures that Beatrice and the little genie that she met, called Sidney, that they had. She’s living with her grandmother Ellie because her mom died when she was about two years old. And she had been in theatre when she was pregnant with Beatrice. And so Sidney comes to her one night, and they go up to the attic and take out… there’s a steamer trunk, and they take clothes out of the trunk. And he talks about it, and she puts the costume on her, and she immediately goes into an adventure that represented what the play was that the costume was worn in.
And so there’s 12 chapters in that book, each of them a different adventure, and they each have a spiritual message to them. And it’s just a really fun book. And I say that anyone from the age of 8 to 108 will love the book.
SC: Well, yeah, I was going to say the same thing. Because basically it’s ten-year-old Beatrice who goes to live with her grandmother. She suddenly finds that there’s a 6-inch-tall genie named Sidney — and I like that word, because that’s where I live! — and he leads her to the attic, and they find that trunk, and they have all these wonderful adventures. So, as you say, it’s for any age group.
NT: Yes. Definitely.
SC: Well, you obviously like writing, though, because you’re still working on your third book, which is called The Legacy. So what’s that going to be about?
NT: Well, that is about my first lifetime on Earth. And it is, as far as I realize, it is true. And — because, once again, I channeled it, and I had no idea what it was going to be, you know, that this was going to happen, or this happened, or whatever. And it’s… I won’t go into it, because it’s going to come out…
SC: Yeah? So, all right, well, so when’s that book out, if the other two took you ten years each?
NT: Well, I haven’t written anything on it, except maybe every now and then. And for a while there I was thinking, well, maybe I’ve written enough on it, because it helped me to heal from something, but I’ve been feeling lately, well, no, I think the story needs to be told, because it is part of our evolutionary process.
SC: In saying that, and I’m not saying just about your first life here, but even in this life, I can’t imagine anyone who’s moved as many times as you have. And you’ve lived in Roswell, you’ve lived in Oregon, you’ve lived in Arizona, you’ve lived in New Mexico, you’re currently living in Santa Fe, and you just moved there from Mount Shasta. So, do you reckon you’re a gyspy?
NT: [laugh] It sure feels that way at times, yes.
SC: And do you actually like moving from place to place? Do you think that’s about detachment?
NT: I think it is about detachment. I… after I, the last time I lived in Bisbee, after I left for a number of years, I always thought, “Oh, I want to go back! I want to go back!” And I realized it was because Bisbee was my new home town. That’s where I grew up to who I am. And, and Bob… both of us like to travel. When we get into a new place we go to thrift stores and we buy furniture and stuff, and have a good time getting it all together. And then maybe the next time we leave we’ll either give it all away or sell it, and go to the next place and do it all over again.
SC: And start all over again! [laugh]
NT: Yeah! It’s fun that way!
SC: Well, you, you even camped out in your car by yourself for some time, and slept and lived out of your car!
NT: Yeah, that was quite a process for me. That was, it was like, all right, getting rid of all the old stuff and then starting brand new.
SC: Yeah, I can relate to that. I actually really like moving. We’ve moved quite a lot in the last few years, although I’m now back in my supposed home town, which is not the town I was born in, because I was born in London. But I’ve grown up basically in Sydney. And they say that all of us return to that particular place this year. So, it’ll be interesting to see whether you actually end up back in Bisbee.
Well, in saying that you moved around a lot, you also, in going from town to town, met new people, and you had a number of short-term relationships. But around about eight years ago you finally met your current partner, Bob Towers, who you’ve been talking about helped you set up the Tree of Golden Light. Tell me about Bob, how you met?
NT: Well, we met in Sierra Vista. There’s a really nice spiritualist church there. And his friends had brought him there, and I was there. And then, and that was when I was… just before I was beginning to channel publicly. And he came to the first public channeling. And he said, as soon as he looked in my eyes, he knew he’d… we’d been together forever, or that we’d known each other forever.
But he was… you know, we were friends for the first three and a half or so years that we knew each other, you know, in this lifetime. And then, after I had moved from Bisbee and went to New Mexico, and then I moved back, that is when Bob and I got together as a couple.
SC: And you’ve been together basically ever since. [laugh]
NT: That’s right. That was in the fall of ’04.
SC: Now, the other really important relationships you’ve had, apart from with your previous husbands, Bob and your children and grandchildren, you’ve also had two other wonderful relationships in that time. Both have been with dogs. And your first important dog was called Lobo. How long did you have him? And tell me a little bit about him.
NT: Well, Lobo came to us in my second marriage. And he was wonderful. We got him from a dog pound. And he reminded us of a wolf, in a way. That’s why we named him Lobo. And when I came out to the southwest, I brought… he came with me. And when I went back after being at my sister’s in Oregon, and we went back to Maine, he was 11, 11½ by then, and so I knew he… the journey was hard on him and he wouldn’t be able to make it back without it being really difficult.
So, I took him back to my former husband, because we were friends. And so that was fine, you know. And I got word from my former husband several months after I got back to Arizona that Lobo had passed.
So, it was in ’02 when I first heard about Toshiro (Stephen: sadly, Toshiro passed away in September) and saw him. I was going to visit with a person that might have some work for me, and as I opened the car door this dog comes running up to the car and licks my face, and — just wagging his tail and everything.
And the woman was just very surprised. She said he’s very friendly, but he usually takes his time. [laugh]
So, anyway, that was Toshiro, and…
SC: And it was like he knew you before.
NT: Yes. Oh, yeah. And I was staying… I did get the job with her, and I was staying in her renovated school bus. And he’d come over every morning when she’d let him out and just check on me and see if I was up yet. And he’d lay under the bus if I wasn’t up yet. And when he heard me going around, then he’d go off, running off. [laugh]
The place I was in, the woman said, “No, we don’t allow dogs. And then she changed her mind after a few months, and she said, “Okay.” And, so that’s… at that time was when the woman who had Toshiro had to pare down on her animals because her health was failing. And so she asked if I would like Toshiro.
SC: And you’ve had him ever since?
NT: Oh, yes. Yeah.
SC: And you actually believe that he’s Lobo reincarnated?
NT: Yes, I do. And also, I have come to realize in the last couple of years that he is also a former dog of mine as well come back. Lobo — when we had Lobo first, in my first marriage, we also had another dog named Chance. And I know, I know for a fact, in my heart, that both Chance and Lobo have come together, as twin flames if you want to call it that — dogs have souls; animals do — and I have seen both of those dogs in Toshiro. Yeah. It’s really amazing.
SC: Now, you mentioned that you took a pretty important visit to your sister back in 1997-98. And it wasn’t that you knew it was important at that time. But when you got there, you met someone you were talking to. And they suggested that you went and did some regressional hypnotherapy.
SC: And having always believed that your childhood was good — and we’ve talked about that already today — what did you find out?
NT: Well, I found out that there was an incident that happened when I was three years old that I…. It was very traumatic, and I repressed it. And it… I carried a memory through my life after that of, every once in a while there would be this memory that would come up of my lying on my stomach, in my parents’ bed, and with a heavy weight on me that I thought was a folded-up blanket.
I’d have this memory every now and then, that memory of this happening. And that’s all there was, until…
SC: But how old do you think you were at the time that the — the first sit — I suppose the situation took place?
NT: Oh, I was three. Yeah, I was three years old. And so, in the hypnotherapy session, my father, who at that time had passed and was on the other side, he came through me and he started telling me, leading me through the remembrance of what happened. And in that — I’ll just kind of briefly tell you that I went up to a ship out of my body, my soul did. And there was God, who I learned later on was Hatonn, and, but God told me, you know… I wanted to… I just wanted to stay out of my body. I didn’t want to go back.
SC: So this, so this is when you were three you left your body?
NT: That’s right. Because of a traumatic experience I had. And, and so, when I said I didn’t want to go back into that body, Hatonn showed me what my life… what I had gone to Earth in this lifetime to do. And that was what convinced me to come back. Because it was…
SC: Now, Nancy, I know, I know it’s really traumatic for you, but that moment, at three, you were actually sexually abused by somebody.
NT: [whispered] Yeah.
SC: And you… the only way you dealt with it at that moment was you left your body, went up to the ship, were told that you needed to come back, came back, and you never, ever, ever thought about that moment ever again.
NT: No, I didn’t. And that’s what that memory that I had after that, from time to time through the years, was about.
SC: Umm. And were you, and were you always, then, frightened of having blankets put on you in bed asleep, or…?
NT: No, that didn’t seem to be an issue. But I had… oh, there were certain things that I guess maybe now and then — because I don’t have a lot of memory of my childhood. And as the years… as different things came to me, I realized, through, you know, through Reikis and meditations and so forth, I realized that there were things that happened to me that I had repressed because it wasn’t something that I wanted to remember.
SC: And in hindsight, though, it’s good that you repressed it, because you actually had this really lovely life, you had a great relationship with your mother, great with your father, your sisters. It was a generally normal, happy household?
NT: That’s right. And I’d say it was meant to be. I… I had a good lifetime that I could… I could live that way, I could have that happy lifetime. When I was going through my life, it was wonderful. And I would say it was meant to be. That …
SC: And your parents never knew anything about that moment?
NT: Well, my mother didn’t. My mother was down in Portland, Maine, at the time.
SC: They were, they were away, weren’t they? And it was a…
SC: … it was the boyfriend of a babysitter you had.
NT: That’s right. And my mother was giving birth, was down at the hospital having my younger sister. [laugh]
SC: And they never, ever knew anything about that moment?
NT: Well, I would say that there was some possibility that my father might have known something. Because of a time when my mother told me that she… after she got back from the hospital with my sister, she was at the foot of the stairs that go upstairs, and my father was talking with the local nurse. And she said, “Well, I wouldn’t worry about it. It was just a little… a little blood.” And mom didn’t have any idea what was… what she was talking about.
SC: Because you and your mum were very, very close. But she, she actually — and nor did your father, but — importantly, your mother never really believed your channeling gifts and didn’t quite understand your own spirituality in later life?
NT: I think she wanted to. Because she seemed to understand some of the things that I would tell her. She might say, “Oh, I’m not sure what you mean,” but, you know, she supported me in her love. And she was… she was wonderful in that way. She didn’t try to tell me that I was crazy or anything like that.
SC: [laugh] But, now, she passed away almost exactly a year ago today, whilst we’re talking.
SC: And she was 91 when she passed. But earlier this year you had a phenomenal dream in which she came to you. And can you tell me a little bit about that dream and what it meant?
NT: In the dream I was with someone, probably Bob. And we had come… driven into the courtyard at her house. And we got out of the car and we were looking up at the sky, and there were all these little, beautiful clouds just coming in. And they were just gold and light colored. It was beautiful. Tinged with gold. And as we walked up the steps and onto the deck, they just kept coming and kept coming. And it was so beautiful! And I said, I’ve got to get in there and tell her! I know she’ll want to see this!
And so I went in, and I put my arms around her, and she was… you know, at that age, the last time I was up there, she was 91. And I put my arms around her and I said, “Mom, you’ve got to see this! You’re going to want to see this, for sure!” And I led her out onto the deck.
And she looked up, and by then the clouds had gathered even more over the mountain tops — big old mountains are right there from the back yard — and as we looked, our arms around each other, she just held me so tightly, and I felt like we had become one. And I knew then and there that she totally knew and supported and was awake, you know, telling me, “Yes, I understand all that you’ve been saying now.” She knew I was telling the truth. She knew that I was awake, because she was.
SC: That’s so beautiful. And, speaking of family, you’re a grandma now, and you’ve got two daughters. So, what do your daughters and what do your grandchildren think of, you know, Grandma Nancy and her spiritual side?
NT: [laugh] Well, I have one beautiful daughter who is… she has been a Christian, and she has… her whole family is that. And she’s had a beautiful life, home schooling, giving birth to her four children at home, and the whole thing. That’s, that’s just wonderful.
And my other daughter, I didn’t realize until about maybe eight or ten years ago that she is awake as well. And she has been for a number of years, you know, in certain degrees. And she has her own journey, and she has her own website, and she works on Sugarloaf Mountain, and the whole thing. But she has been very awake as far as being able to communicate with animals and so forth.
And she has four children. And her daughter is awake. And I have been able to help her for, you know, for a good many years — my grand-daughter — in her awakening. She’ll call me or she’ll email me, [laugh] and say, “Grammy, what do you think of this?” And, “This is what happened!” And she sees spirit and so forth. And so…
SC: That’s so cool!
NT: It’s been so wonderful to be able to be there for her, you know.
SC: And what’s your daughter’s website?
NT: [laugh] It’s JP Fun Crochet. Yeah. She does beautiful crocheting and other work, beadwork and so forth.
SC: Now, speaking of what lies ahead, how do you see the next few months unfolding, and what does December 21 or Ascension mean to you?
NT: [laugh] Well, it means… what it’s going to mean. It means that we are going to continue to open up to who we are, in leaps and bounds. We are going to reach a point where we are able to understand what we have been going through and what is in front of us and how we can create our world the way that we desire and intend it to be.
We’re going to see a lot of the — let’s call it the cabal, the Illuminati — goings on are going to go away. Love is what’s going to do it. Love is the most powerful, powerful energy that there is. And as long as we send the cabal, the Illuminati, the most powerful love that we can, peaceful feelings, instead of resisting, instead of trying to push against it, to embrace it and allow it to feel that love of ours, it’s got to have an effect on them.
There are things that we’ll have to stand in our power to do, yes, but we stand in our power with that love so strong instead of the fear in which they are based.
SC: What about Disclosure?
NT: Disclosure is already in the process. And so many people are being given the gifts such as the one that we’ve been seeing in the sky. I’ve seen other… I’ve been involved in other instances in which I’ve seen…. You know, it helped me to get to that point where I believed and I knew. And it is happening now. And it’s going to get to the point where the people are going to demand that all of those in the public start telling the truth. They’re already demanding it in many ways.
The media has to be one of the premises by which we will be telling and finding out the truth about who we are, who is out there and inside our beautiful Earth to help us to get to the place.
But we have to take the stand. We are the ones that have to really know what we’re doing and to do it, and say, “Come, take my hand, and we’ll do this together.”
SC: And do you believe that all leads up to December 21?
NT: I think so. I think December 21 is the turning point.
SC: And speaking of love, because you talked about love a bit there, Bob has been a tremendous loving force in your life. And you have moved around quite a bit, even with him. You’ve moved probably three or four times since the two of you have been together. But apart from moving house, what other things do you two like to do together?
NT: Well, we like to… we like to go out and dance. [laugh] Find music. It’s getting harder and harder to find, but we like to go out and dance. And, you know, it’s — the kind of music, like the BeeGees and the Eagles, and that kind of music. That music that’s here on this planet is truly a gift. It’s a gift that we can do, that we know and that we appreciate.
I love all the other beautiful, metaphysical, spiritual music too. But everything has its own time and its own place, and we don’t have to lose any of it. Anything that makes us feel good. Anything that makes us, that leads us, inspires us to move our bodies in a way that makes us feel good and, well, helps to keep you healthy!
Which I haven’t done enough of, lately.
SC: Well, you’ve been… you’ve been too busy moving house and unpacking and setting up, by the sound of things.
NT: That’s right. That’s a dance in its own, isn’t it?
SC: It is. And, but music is very important to you, because you even have done a series of CDs where you read poetry to music. But what many people may not know is you love to sing!
NT: I do. I do. And that came from my mother’s side of the family. And Bob, quite by accident, found — a few years ago; a couple, three years ago — found a karaoke on line, and he showed it to me, sent it to me, and since then I’ve been singing on Sing Snap in the evenings, some evenings, and just having a ball with it. It’s just so much fun.
SC: And have you been trained? Like, have you had lessons? Or have you been classically trained in singing?
NT: Oh, no. [laugh] No, I, I used to sing all the time, when I was a teenager. You know, I’d sing to the radio, and sing…. When my girls were growing up, we’d go for a ride in the car, and we’d have the radio on and we’d sing to it. And, I just, you know, except for the last 20 years, until about three years ago, I hadn’t done much singing, you know, except before then. And, so this has really brought it back in me, and I just love doing it.
SC: Well, you’re going to do something that’s either very wonderful and very brave or… [laugh] could have repercussions that people aren’t ready for. [laughs] Because your music choice today… tell me about the song, and tell me about the lyrics and what you’re going to do.
NT: Well, the song is — let’s see now, “Can You Feel the Love Tonight.” And it’s…
SC: Oh, which is Elton John, from The Lion King?
NT: Yes. Right. And it’s one of the songs that I chose to change maybe a few little words to and sing for a closing song for my family gatherings. I open them with a wonderful song from Yanni, that’s his music, and then I close with one of my songs that I record on Sing Snap, specifically for, you know, for the gathering, because it seems to fit it. And.…
SC: And what is it about this song and the lyrics that you rewrote for it that makes you just love it?
NT: Yeah. And the lyrics — I just change a few words here and there. It’s… mostly it’s the way that Elton John sang it, or the words that he used. But it seems so fitting to, you know, to the way the, the information and the call…. And so that’s another fun way I use my… I use my music, you know, to share it. And to give full credit to the beautiful people who sang it, wrote it, because it’s a wonderful gift.
SC: And this song really resonates with you?
SC: Well, Nancy, I’ve had such a great time getting to know you tonight. And thank you so much for sharing your personal light agenda with all of us today.
Now, if you’re listening at home, you can find out more about Nancy’s books, her e-books, her CDs…. Everything to do with Nancy is at www.treeofthegoldenlight.com. And you can also visit her shop, which is www.thegoldenlightshop.com.
Next week, I have managed to coax a man that many of you may know from his wonderful blog site. He’s a spiritual warrior. He’s a man who’s been helping many of us with the news updates, and giving us his personal take on both what’s going down and what’s going up. And he’s a gentle soul, and like Nancy he’s a wonderful musician. And that is Kaulipele, or KP as some call him.
So he’ll be joining me next week for his first major radio interview here on the Light Agenda next Wednesday.
Meanwhile, this is Stephen Cook, and, as always, in everything you do this week may you only serve the light agenda. And please thank my guest today, Nancy Tate.
Nancy, it’s been an absolute pleasure talking to you this evening.
NT: Well, it’s been a real, real blessing for me. It’s just wonderful to be able to share with all of you. I love you all.
SC: And… and we love you, too. And happy 69th, for Monday night.
NT: [laugh] Thank you!
SC: And for all you at home now, here is Nancy Tate with her very own re-worded version of “Can You Feel the Love Tonight?” Nancy, take it away.
“Can You Feel the Love Tonight?” Nancy Tate sings