Here is Part 2 of my interview with blogger and former Worldwide Church of God member American Kabuki from The Light Agenda on July 11. You can read part 1 here: http://goldenageofgaia.com/2012/08/transcript-american-kabuki-on-the-light-agenda-part12/
You can listen to the full interview here: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/inlight_radio/2012/07/11/the-light-agenda
Stephen Cook, continued from Part 1: And, so, you’re seeing all of that. And what were you thinking at the time?
America Kabuki: Well, you go into this, what they call a cognitive dissonance. You know, you believe one thing, but you’ve seen evidence that maybe something’s wrong, you know? And, you know, when you hold these beliefs … religion, religious beliefs are … they’re like little babies people protect. I have this theory they live in your lower brainstem somehow, you know, next to anger and hate and love and all of these things? And when they get challenged, these little beliefs, people lash out, you know? They don’t want to think consciously about things.
And I went through that. And I’m looking at this stuff, and I’m just thinking, you know … my first thought was, well, if all these people are leaving, and they’re all, you know, gone down the rat hole as far as God’s concerned, you know, they’ve lost everything and they’re condemned forever or whatever, God’s a very wasteful being. That’s really what my thought was. And I couldn’t believe that.
SC: But then you were also witnessing … well, I mean in that last year prior to you actually leaving, you had started to witness a great deal of racism within the church. And then you became very, very close to a black minister. But then you discovered that he wasn’t being honest, either.
AK: Yeah, that was at the end. He was honest … at least, to me he was honest, prior to that. He was trying to reform the church and bring change to it. And what he was attempting to do was a very good idea, because he was a very bright black man.
SC: So he was trying to reform the church, but at the same time he then did something that really upset you.
AK: Yeah. He … I had been defending him, and we were really successful with …threading what the true situation was on the doctrines. And he … towards the end, I was leaving to take a job in San Francisco, and I was defending him and all of this. And there was accusations coming out that he was going to sue the church for racial discrimination. And he actually had grounds to do that. But the problem was that we had a mixed church. It was, you know, it was about half black and half white, and it was very harmonious. But I knew that the minute he did that the black people would side with him and the white people would feel threatened.
SC: But what actually really upset you about that, then?
AK: He lied to me, because he led me to believe that that wasn’t true.
SC: Which wasn’t true?
AK: That that rumor was false, that he was going to sue the church. And I defended him. And I did that all over the net, and I did it, you know, everywhere. I put myself out there for him, and he let me twist in the wind.
SC: And that betrayal, that was really the turning point for you to leave the church?
AK: No, that wasn’t. I continued for a few years after that. I was still trying to change things. But, not unlike what’s happened to me online recently, the same thing kind of happened to me back in 1994 and 1995. I became well known within that group of people, and I became very trusted, that I would be honest with people about what I knew.
I was considered … actually, within the church at the time I was considered a very, kind of a dangerous person.
SC: From what I remember, you set up this internet-based church reformation.
AK: Yeah, we had a … there were some blogs at that time. The web was very brand … it was still in formation. I mean, the internet browser didn’t come out until 1994. There weren’t very many websites at that time. There was only about 99 of them. But I had a mailing list, a friend of mine had a mailing list, and it was like a list serve. And he got … I took it over from him and I set up a server in San Francisco. And people were coming to my mailing list and … it was like a chat room, you know, except that it happens in your email.
SC: Um-hmm. And that list was of church members only?
AK: And a lot of people were detoxing. You know, because they really saw … and there was a lot of lies told by the church. You know, they were feeding the minister in Atlanta what they were wanting to change, and then denying it. They were playing both sides of the fence because they wanted to maintain the income. And it was all about money.
And essentially what they had done, the church had done, is they made a marketing decision that this apocalyptic way of Herbert Armstrong wasn’t selling anymore, and so they wanted to go mainstream evangelical, because they saw the mega-churches forming, and there was a big boom in Christian evangelism in America in the 1990s.
SC: Hmmm, I remember.
AK: And they wanted a piece of that pie. I mean, and this is my opinion.
SC: Okay. So the church was trying to change its doctrines, but you, with this email list … what did that email list do? Because in … from what I gather from what you’ve already told me, you’d have three or five hundred people going in the email list at one time, but all out there was something like 50,000 people. And you were actually assisting them in what was quite a traumatic process of leaving the church.
AK: At its peak, there was about 120,000 members worldwide, that were paying tithes to the church.
SC: Paying their 300 million to it. [laugh]
AK: They had massive operations in Australia, Canada, Britain and smaller offices in France, and some in Latin America.
SC: And so were all these people, though, out of all those people from around the world, there were so many people who were feeling some sense of dissatisfaction with the church, and they were questioning their beliefs, but yet they turned to you in your mailing list. How did you actually help them?
AK: There was a lot of lies told, and people knew there was lies. And so people, people started saying, hey, what about this doctrine what about this doctrine? Why are we doing this? And how come we pay so much in tithes when no other church does this?
And all this was very threatening to this …. They had this very corporate structure. And it was a corporation. They called it the Worldwide Church of God, Inc. People were detoxing, basically.
SC: And what … but what did they come to you for? Like, what were you able to do with them?
AK: Oh, some of them were just pouring their hearts out, you know? The abuses their ministers did to them over the years that they never said a word about. It was heart-rending, you know?
And, I mean, it was the kind of stuff that you’d have to have someone who’s been through it that can listen. Because if you told a Catholic or you told a Southern Baptist or you told a Lutheran, they would not understand the experience and why these things affected you so much. You know? And why it was so traumatic to leave or to change, and, you know, you basically lost your moorings, because all the … you know, you go from thinking you’ve got every answer about God to realising that you have very few.
SC: But what did you actually offer them? What did you do that helped them? Or what do you think you did that helped them?
AK: I listened. I was honest with them, as far as I didn’t play games with them. I had sources of information, I could find out things within a few hours, both inside the organisation and through the membership throughout the world. I was finding out stuff faster than the church could find it out.
SC: And the church wasn’t watching you, or trying to stop you from doing this?
AK: Well, they didn’t know what to do, because this was the first of the … they … I hit them with something they had never seen before, because nobody had ever dealt with an internet-based …
SC: Yes. Yeah. And of course we forget that it was all so new then.
AK: And they had … the church had control of the church newspaper, the church magazines, the church … the ministers only spoke what they were told to speak. They never …
SC: I’m just thinking, little did they know that American Kabuki was actually looking after their membership! [laughing]
AK: And … their … they had this centralised control on the flow of information. But what happened with the internet was you now have this networked flow of information. So, a networked flow of information decimates a hierarchy. And, I mean, you really see that with the banking world now, because they don’t know what to do. You’ve got Wikileaks, you’ve got, you know, Julian Assange and his networks coming up with all this amazing information. You’ve got others doing stuff. You’ve got bloggers everywhere telling the truth, wherever they can find it.
And hierarchies lose control of the flow of information. They hate the internet. But the church just didn’t have … they just dismissed it as a joke, because what is the internet? Oh, they thought America Online or CompuServe. And I was, you know, I was using the internet raw.
SC: And at what point did you actually decide to up and leave?
AK: 1997. I was called out to Pasadena by the man we called the Pastor General.
SC: So, did you get called out?
AK: And … it was actually quite cordial. At this point I’ve known the guy for 25 years. Or actually fif … twenty …
SC: And what, well, what happened when you got there, though? What was said? What was the turning point?
AK: It was a really weird weekend. You know, when I got my flight home, I said that was the end of it, you know. And …
SC: And it really was the end?
AK: Yeah. I never attended again.
Now, you’ve also had some major psychic and telepathic experiences in your life, and you’ve also had many illuminating dreams. Can you tell me a little bit about some of the dreams you had prior to 2008? And the reason I say that is 2008 was a big turning point — and I want to come to that in a minute — but prior to 2008, just tell me a little bit about some of those dreams.
AK: When I was in Atlanta … when I started to go … I was kind of going through an awakening in Atlanta, because this minister was being persecuted, and I stepped up to defend him?. And there was a whole thing … it seemed like the minute I stepped into this breach where this individual was being unjustly treated, all these kind of unusual things started happening to me. And I started having dreams, and I started having dreams of things that were going to happen, and they would happen … you know, with the whole church situation and this reformation.
I had dreams where I had one … I had … for a while there I had a lot of American Indian dreams, like I was an American Indian. Either … it seemed to me that it was either Hopi or Navajo. And I would be in these what was called a hogan, it’s kind of an earthen and wood structure in the desert. And I’d be in there, and I’d be standing there, and … there was one … and I had like … I had no shirt on and they were painting me in this dream, and they were giving me these like sacred whistles and stones and things. And I had no idea what they were, but they were like stone whistles and rattles, you know, like the rattles that Indians shake and things. And this man was speaking to me in some … I thought it was Navajo or Hopi. I don’t know which. The cultures are very similar. And then I … I was in the impression of some sort of ceremony. And I had several of those kind of dreams for a while.
I also had dreams about … one dream I had like a book pushed into my solar plexus, like a small book. And another dream I had this stone, it was shaped like a guitar pick and it was about an inch think, and it had like a combination of a three-leaf clover, kind of a hybrid between a three-leaf clover and kind of an arc shape, and I was given this stone. And it was supposed to be some sort of sacred stone. And I don’t know what that was.
SC: Have you had any like really prophetic dreams, where you’ve had a dream and then the next day or something else it’s come true?
AK: Yeah. I had a dream that I was on this mountain, and I was climbing this hill. And my … it was me and my wife and this black minister. The dream was strange. Often my dreams go back to my home town in Arizona? There was this flash flood that came, it was a horrible thunderstorm. This flash flood came and surrounded this mountain. And then this earthquake happened. And the mountain split in two, and this black minister ended up on one mountain and I ended up, and my wife, on this other mountain. And this river flowed through us, between us.
In the dream it was very clear that I was going to be separated from this man. And I knew what the meaning was while I was dreaming it. And it was very clear. And then at the end of the dream, it said, leave Atlanta by April 11. It was just a loud voice that said ‘leave Atlanta’ … it just said “Leave Atlanta by April 11.”
I said, okay. I don’t usually get voice, you know, something tell me something in a dream. And I thought, well, that’s very unusual, I’d better pay attention to that. And I had no idea what it was about, because this guy was this huge hero to me, you know?
SC: But as it turned out, though, all those events from before that happened, you know, the rift in the church, him … you finding out about him taking legal action, you actually did leave Atlanta on April the 11th, or prior to.
SC: What happened after April 11, though, that made you realise why you had to get out of there by April 11?
AK: I didn’t know until the day before I left what was going on.
SC: And what was that? What was that?
AK: Because three people that I loved very dearly were at war with each other. And it would have torn me up.
SC: Right. And that was the minister, the assist — yeah?
AK: The assistant minister and the leader of the church.
SC: Okay. And that happened after you’d gone, so you would have been in a very, very difficult situation had you not left by April 11.
AK: Exactly. I still hadn’t disassociated myself from the church, but I could not side with any of these people.
SC: Wow. Now, American Kabuki, you’ve also endured some serious illnesses, and in fact in 2009 you actually died. Can you tell us a bit about that, and what led up to that? Because I believe you went into some polluted water in 2007 and got a serious illness called MRSA, which is like a Staphylococcus, I think. Is that correct?
SC: And then that led to blood poisoning of some sort.
AK: Yeah …
SC: And that carried through 2008, and your leg swelled up horrendously. And then suddenly, 2009, what happened?
AK: I was admitted to the hospital. I could … my oxygen levels were very low, my heart had expanded, it wasn’t … I just remember going in and them cutting my clothes off, and I was unconscious after that, for two weeks! All of a sudden … I had no thoughts at all for two weeks.
SC: So, were you in intensive care or …?
AK: I was in ICU.
AK: And I … all of a sudden I found myself in this really bright place. You know? And it was just … the first thing that hit me was this sense of safety, complete peace, and love, and empathy and compassion, you know? It was love, like … you know when how you feel the sun on your skin at the beach?
SC: Um-hmm. I love it.
AK: It felt like that. It was actually something you felt. Just not … nothing like a typical human emotion in the sense, you could actually … it was something you felt the presence of. And it was very comforting, and I knew I was safe. And the first thing … I just … I don’t remember if it was a being, I don’t remember seeing a face or anything, but something was talking to me, and I assumed at that time it was God. I don’t know if it was angels, or what it was. I don’t even know where I was.
SC: So you weren’t … you weren’t aware in that moment that you were dead, but you were dead?
AK: I knew I was dead.
AK: I knew I was dead.
SC: Oh, you did know in that moment you were dead?
AK: I did
SC: Right. And they’re talking to you, or something’s talking to you. How did you know you were dead, and then what were they saying?
AK: Well, they said …. the first thing it said, it said, “you are God.” And I took that to mean that, you know, I’m part of the greater reality that is the universe and God and everything. And I didn’t have any problem with that. I mean, I’m not God the source of all things. I mean, I’m … but God is omnipotent, and my understanding at the time, that if God is everywhere, then he has to be in everything. So I didn’t have any problem with that, at the time.
SC: But how did you know that you were dead? [laugh]
AK: My body was younger.
AK: I had, I was like 24. And it was, you know, like my prime. And I just felt really, really good. I mean, you don’t … I couldn’t describe how good I felt. And then, the next sensation I felt was in this side of life your mind kind of feels like it ends at your skull. You know?
AK: And as soon as I’m in there it’s like my consciousness expands just everywhere, at once, you know. It’s like this sensation of expansion of consciousness. It was … it was just the most amazing state I ever felt. And any question I, you know, I … you … I have a lot of questions, and I ask people things and I’m a very curious person, and any question I had I just had to get answers. And it was like I had this internet search engine in my head or something. I mean, that’s a crude analogy, but, you know, it was just … anything I wanted to know, it provided the answer for it.
And I don’t even remember what I asked now, but it was just an amazing sensation, this consciousness. My brain has never worked that well. And it was just like, “Wow! This is great!”
SC: And how long were you dead for?
AK: I don’t know. I don’t know at what point … I don’t know how long this went on, because I was technically unconscious in the hospital.
SC: But the … so the doctors or anything, they didn’t actually read that you’d physically died on the machines or anything?
AK: No, I don’t think it showed on the machines. I don’t know. It … this could have been an instant. I know they sure they all came into the room when I came back to my body. They all rushed in. So, you know, the alarms were going off, and, you know, this could have been like … I don’t know how time works on the other side. I don’t know what happened, but I’m there in a safe place.
And I didn’t have a life review, and that really puzzled me for a while. It was just very accepting. And I had the sensation that everything was cool, you know, it was like, you did a good job. You know? And then I had this … this h … there was this hypercube in front of me. And it’s a four-dimensional cube. It was rotating in space.
SC: So, a four-dimensional as opposed to three-dimensional. What … how does that … just visual … I can’t quite visualise that. [laugh]
AK: Well, you know how a square … a cube it to a square?
AK: Well, when a hypercube rotates, you will see a cube rotate into view and move away out of view. And there’s an example on Wikipedia that’s really good. And what … the thing on Wikipedia is very similar to what I saw.
SC: Okay. So it had a … it was a cube with this other complete dimension that you’ve never ever experienced in this reality here?
AK: Cubes nested in cubes, so it was four dimensions I’ve seen these things before, and … yeah, I used to play with them in my head. So it wasn’t something I couldn’t imagine before. Anyway, I’m looking at this thing, and this, you know, this voice tells me, and … as I’m supposed to go over to this cube, the voice says, “God needs to change.” And I didn’t know what that meant, if it was me, or what it was.
But anyway, this 4D cube, and it … and I was … I understood my job was to change this 4D thing into a higher dimension. And I was supposed to do something with the angles, or … I don’t know what … I didn’t know how to do it. And I kind of went into this panic, because I didn’t know what I was doing and what I was being asked to do, and I didn’t ….
And then there was a moment I thought, “Oh, no, this is the Devil,” kind of thing, you know, which was ridiculous because I was completely safe. Nothing was shown to me but love.
And I just, I said, “Look,” I said, “Do with my life what you want to do.” I said, “But I don’t want to screw this up and get somebody hurt.” And I really thought I would … I’d muck it up, and … because I didn’t know what was being asked of me, and I didn’t have any context for this dimension … you know, this … basically it was a dimensional change.
AK: So I said, “Look, do what you want with my life,” you know, “It’s in your hands.” I said, “I don’t know what to do here.”
And the next thing I knew, I’m back in my body, looking around this …. And I’ve got this trach in my throat, these wires on my chest, these tubes in my arms, and then the alarms are going off and all the nurses are running in, “Look at Jerry! You’re awake!” you know, “You’re awake!”
SC: And has your life changed from that moment?
AK: Yeah, because the weirdest part was where I went seemed more real than here, and like this was the dream rather than that place. And it really took me about two years to feel grounded again. Because I just, it was hard to take anything seriously, that … any drama on this planet, you know. It just, I thought, oh, this is just a joke. You know? Because … and it seemed like everything was always trying to get me back into this drama.
SC: But then has your thought process from every moment since then changed? Whenever anything happens are you completely looking at it in a different way?
AK: Well, I didn’t know what the dream meant at first. And I talked with a friend in South Africa from college that I was talking to. And I said, you know, I explained it, and I said, you know, I said, “A lot of people think I’m crazy because I had this experience,” you know.
SC: And what did they say?
AK: He gave me his opinion on it. He said that, “Well,” you know, “it said you were — you’re God.” He said, “We’re all part of God.” You know, that God is every living mind, and, you know, everything that we see. But God is … also has its own consciousness, you know, in addition to our separate consciousnesses. He said that the … his explanation, which I think is a valid explanation, but he said that this wire-frame cube that I saw, this hypercube, was my rigid ideas of God, and that what I was being told is that my rigid ideas of God, which came from my background, needed to change. And I think that is a valid interpretation of it.
There’s many levels to this. But as … at that … you know, after that I was … it just … and I started thinking about that a lot — what was this whole 4D, 5D thing about?
SC: Do you think it’s just about the dimensional shifts that we’re going through?
AK: I do now. I didn’t … I ran across Blossom Goodchild’s blog, and she was channeling the Galactic Federation.
SC: Well, I was going to say that, because that was the first time that you came to looking at channeled messages, if I’m right.
AK: I didn’t really believe in them. I, my wife kind of …
AK: My wife did channel her brother when he died.
AK: I accepted that as a possibility.
SC: But do you think you were led to Blossom Goodchild and suddenly she had a message that absolutely resonated with you at that time to help you explain, or to give you an explanation of that dying process?
AK: Not the dying process, but she mentioned this dimensional change, from 4D to 5D, and that hit me like a ton of bricks.
SC: And that made sense?
AK: Yeah. It answered the part of the hypercube.
SC: And then what’s happened since then for you in terms of how you think about things?
AK: I think I’ve come to a bigger realisation of the oneness of everything. Everything is one. We do have our individual consciousnesses, but we’re all … oh, I call it there’s only one of us here, even though we’re kind of in a bit of a hall of mirrors sometimes, we … we’re here to learn love and to interact with people and to different situations and find that oneness.
SC: Well, speaking of oneness, you’ve actually been a little bit sick in the last month. And you were in hospital again. A similar — either blood poisoning or another Staph type infection took over you, is that correct?
AK: The doctor doesn’t think it was Staph, he thinks it was Strep and a co-factor.
SC: Okay. But you were floored. You’ve been in, basically, in intensive care again. And yet your friend, Gary Harding, organised a oneness blessing for you, and you feel as though that’s actually healed you?
AK: It is having a healing effect. It’s very subtle. It changes day by day. It’s a most unusual energy.
SC: Tell me a little bit about that, because I’ve not experienced that.
AK: Well, there’s a woman named Marianne Pestana, she works with Gary and Joe Crane. She was out in California packing up her belongings. She’s moving to Denver. So, Gary called her and asked her if she could meet me and pass this on, because I’d been so ill. I wasn’t able to go to this conference where they had passed this blessing on.
So, I arranged to meet her in San Clemente, which is about halfway between where she was and I am. And we met in this bar, and she did explain how it came to be. There’s a man named Joe Crane. He was kind of an odd man, and I think he’s … and he’s in his sixties.
SC: Sorry, are we talking about the wholeness blessing?
AK: The wholeness blessing.
SC: So, do you want to just tell me a little bit about what that was for you, though? For you, like how you experienced the wholeness blessing?
AK: Well, she put her left hand on my heart and her right hand on my back. And she said she’d say this silent prayer, and asked me to do the same. And she did that. And then it felt like … and this is … they tell me this is different for everybody, depending on what’s going on with you. This is a wholeness of … you may need wholeness of the body, the energy body, or your emotional body, or whatever. It could … it heals all that stuff. And it’s different issues with different people. But, you know, some people have cancer, some people like me had Strep in the legs.
But anyway, it felt like cold water, like cool, soothing water flowing into me, into my heart and in through my back. And then it felt like it moved down into my kidneys and into the base of my skull. And it just kind of moves around. And I don’t feel the coldness anymore, but I do feel things changing. it’s a … it’s very subtle, at least for me.
AK: Oh, yeah.
SC: Because you were really, really sick. [laugh] Oh, man, even the photos that you posted on your blog, which were pretty graphic! You weren’t well.
AK: No. And even after the antibiotics, I wasn’t quite myself. My energy levels are very low.
SC: Well, hopefully this wellness, or wholeness …
AK: Well, there’s two … It’s … there’s … the Oneness blessing came from India. The wholeness blessing came from America.
SC: But you had a wholeness blessing.
AK: Yes, I haven’t done a Oneness blessing yet.
SC: Right. But you feel that it was a really good experience?
AK: Yes. It’s, you know, I’m still documenting it, and… Some people have it done more than once, too, you know, if there’s an ongoing situation. But …
SC: Well, hopefully you don’t need that.
AK: Yeah. But it’s interesting. It’s much more powerful than anything I’ve felt before. And I’ve been healed before, so ….
SC: Hmm. Now, in terms of your other life, you are married, you do have a child. But what do you do to relax? Are you just spending time with family? What do you do to get out there?
AK: I garden, belong to a health club slash wellness center that’s run by a local hospital. It’s a normal health club, but very highly educated people who help you train. They train Olympic athletes, and they train people with cardiacs, they train everybody.
SC: Well, you’re going to be one of the fittest people in the world soon, then.
AK: In a year or two.
SC: [laugh] And apart from gardening, what else do you like to do?
AK: I do a lot of … you might notice I do a lot of images on my blog. I do a lot of stuff in Photoshop on my own, a kind of artistic thing because it’s so right brain instead of left brain. It gets me out of my computer mindset. So, I do a lot of stuff with that.
I have two very funny cats. They’re …
SC: And their names?
AK: Simba and Tally. And they are quite comical. Tally is a huge hunter. She kills all the mice and rats in the neighborhood. And Simba just likes to love and sit on your lap.
SC: Obviously you’re going to be posting for quite some time to come in the next few months, and keeping us all up to date. But what do you think’s going on right now? Because there’s a lot of stuff that seems to be happening in one go. How would you summarise that?
AK: Mostly clean-up. I think things are far more progressed than people think they are. Right now it’s just a matter of taking out these people who are still extorting their existence into being.
SC: Now, when you say “taking out,” what do you mean by that? Because I understand you’re not a violent person.
AK: No. My opinion is that, and this has kind of been my opinion for a while, that — you know, I don’t know how much the military is doing; I don’t have access to that stuff; Drake claims to know, but I don’t know really how much he does know, but — I think a lot of stuff is going on behind the scenes that we don’t see.
I think the Galactics are involved with it, I think the Celestials are involved with it, and I think there’s a lot of humans working behind the scenes. And I do know that there is a financial system waiting in the wings. I think there’s a lot of drama that is meant to distract us and keep people divided, although that seems to be easing.
SC: So, are you hopeful for what lies ahead?
AK: Oh, extremely.
SC: And, in terms of today, I asked if you could choose a music track. And you have surprised me, a little bit. And I don’t know why it was surprising, but I wasn’t expecting you to choose an Icelandic singer called Björk. So, could you tell me a little bit about the song you’ve chosen from her and what it means to you?
AK: The song is … it’s called “All Is Full of Love”. And one of the lyrics in it is … oh, I can’t think of the exact lyric, but it’s something about, “All is love, but you just aren’t receiving. Your radio is off.” You know? And that’s pretty much what humanity is. You know? The love is there, but a lot of people aren’t quite yet receiving. You know, it ….
SC: I do indeed. In fact, the lyrics go, “You’ll be given love, you’ll be taken care of. You’ll be given love, you will have to trust it.” And then, the line that you just mentioned is called, “You ain’t just receiving. Your phone is off the hook.” [laugh]
So, is that your … we all need to put our phones back on the hook? Is that what you’re advising with this song?
AK: Yes. That’s what we’re going through right now, is this phone being put back on the hook.
SC: And is there no connection to things that are happening in Iceland? It wasn’t that reason, it’s simply the song?
AK: No, it wasn’t. I didn’t think of that until you mentioned it. I’ve kind of been fan of hers anyway, but … she’s just such an unusual human being. I just find her fascinating.
SC: Well, American Kabuki, thank you so much for sharing your very personal light agenda with all of us today. And you can find out more about American Kabuki and his blog at AmericanKabuki.blogspot.com, and there’s no www in front of that.
Now, if you think you’ve been waiting a long time for change in this world, you’re going to want to tune in next week when my guest will be 82-year-old lightworker and all-round star being, a lady called Suzy Star.
That’s not to say that Suzy is old, because she is endlessly young, and getting younger every day. But Suzy has been working tirelessly for the light all her life, and she’s going to talk about her life and her mission next week. So, I hope you’ll be back here again.
Meanwhile, this is Stephen Cook, and as always, in everything you do this week may you only serve the Light Agenda. And here is American Kabuki’s music choice, “All Is Full of Love,” by Björk.
American Kabuki, it’s been a pleasure getting to know you today. Thank you so much.
AK: Thank you, Stephen.
SC: And look, keep up the good work! [laugh]
You can read part 1 here: http://goldenageofgaia.com/2012/08/transcript-american-kabuki-on-the-light-agenda-part12/