Building Nova Earth: Toward A World That Works for Everyone

Does It Matter if We Ascend?

Cruisegurl asks a number of questions which would be better answered generally rather than specifically since others probably have them too. Please allow me to answer them between the lines:

Cruisegurl: There are those, including teachers, friends and members of my family, who wonder what a world would look like and feel like without duality. If ascension means moving beyond duality, then how do we learn from the contrast that this dimension provides for us?

Steve: First of all, Cruise, I haven’t ascended so it isn’t easy for me to answer your questions about what it would feel like with any certainty. What I say here are all just my guesses – sometimes educated, sometimes not.

When we’re in Grade 1, we learn how to pronounce, write, and read words. We learn how to get along with our new friends. Etc.

When we’re in university, we learn how to write complex essays, arguing a viewpoint, making a case. We have passed the stage of making new friends and may now be looking for a possible mate. The challenges have expanded and the learning is different. So, I think, it will be before and after Ascension.

C: Because I am in love with Mother Earth and am enjoying my experience here very much, I wonder how I would feel if I left what I know here behind for another dimension in which the contrasts of light vs. dark, happy vs. sad, etc, do not exist?

S: Well, say you grew up in a barrio, where mudslides occur, and were given the chance to go visit Kau’ila in Hawaii, where he’d take you to see some pretty gorgeous scenery. Would you refuse to leave the barrio?

If you left the barrio and went to the Big Island, you’re not leaving Earth. If you leave 3D and go to 5D, you also will not be leaving Earth. In fact you will be staying with her and your 3D Earth home would become … well, not very habitable. But 5D will be absolutely sumptuous and sensorily-stimulating compared to this comparatively-drab 3D.

C: Maybe I misunderstand what the 4th and 5th dimensions hold for us, but if duality does not exist there, what do we do with our time? I wonder how we would create art, cinema, new technologies and more if we aren’t driven by a desire to create something “better” that is born out of our experience of and dissatisfaction with something that is “less” or “lacking” or “not as good?”

S: Hmmmm….   It isn’t that duality doesn’t exist there because it does. It’s that dualistic consciousness does not exist there. You will be you and I will be me. But we will know ourselves as one. You will continue to be you even when you are a Seraphim or Cherubim, as I understand it. So God will be here and you will be there: That’s duality, is it not?  You will stand in the Face of God, but you will still be standing in that Face. That’s duality, isn’t it? But your consciousness will not be dualistic, but unitive.

What will you do? You’ll be consumed with an overwhelming desire to express your love for others through serving. Whom will you serve? Those less evolved, less developed. Or those in difficulty. I’ve read of some very evolved people who took on massively-challenging tasks, transitioned and needed to be served by spirit nurses.

The fact that you’re evolved doesn’t mean you won’t suffer. Look at Ellie, who is Pleiadian royalty. She came down to Earth in a terrestrial body to observe Ascension, grew old, suffered aches and pains she would never have as a Pleiadian, all to serve us. Then her fellow Pleiadians gave her a new cloned body to relieve her aches and pains. So she doesn’t even occupy her own body any more – all for us.

Going back to the school analogy, once you leave Grade 1, and your watercolor paints, and you sit in a Fine Arts class in university, looking at using mixed media and oils, do you miss Grade 1? Probably not.  The challenge is infinitely greater and more exciting.

My 91-year-old Dad left Earth recently and went to the Astral Planes, which are the equivalent of 4D. He was so excited by what there was to see that his attendants couldn’t persuade him to rest from his long illness.  He wanted to be immediately off exploring. Nothing boring there.

I can refer you to sections of a book (New Maps of Heaven) that describe 4D/the Astral Planes, but I can refer you to much less material on 5D/the Mental Planes. Why is that? Because spirits who complete their experience of the Astral Planes and move on to the Mental Planes have much less interest in communicating with us back here on Earth than do the newly-arrived. They’re off and never give us another thought. So we have many fewer descriptions.

If you’d like to hear the scenery of 4D described, go here: http://www.angelfire.com/space2/light11/nmh/common1.html That chapter and those that follow will tell you more about life in 4D.

C: Indeed, isn’t the desire for ascension often born out of our dissatisfaction with all of the cruelty, violence, and inhumanity perpetrated on mankind by mankind?

S: The actual answer to your question, according to the saints and sages of all times, is that the desire to ascend is born of what some call the “longing for liberation.” This tidal, sub-sensible yearning to know God was built into us at inception. For more on it, see

The desire to ascend may arise out of dissatisfaction, but the dissatisfaction itself arises out of the design feature that God has built into us a refusal to settle for anything less than him – in the long run.  The longing for liberation is satisfied only by God.  If we deny it, we end up desiring cars and boats and trips and money instead, none of which fills our aching emptiness, which only God does.

C: I have been entertaining an inner struggle since I learned of the 2012 Enigma explained by David Wilcock and then discovered so many other interesting thoughts on what 2012 will mean for us, including this site, because all of this new information raised an “expectation” in me of disclosure and suddenly I found my sense of inner peace penetrated by impatience that the disclosure hasn’t occurred yet. This has been discussed and preached by SaLuSa and many others, through various channels, for many, many years. Over a decade (or more) by some.

S: I would suggest a different set of events occurred. I would suggest that reading Wilcock and the others fanned the flame of the longing for liberation in you, as hearing about the higher dimensions will do. It may not have been an “expectation” so much as an “anticipation” and a desire that the consummation occur as soon as possible. And then you’re obliged to wait and wait.

C: Is the waiting for this “event” throwing us out of balance because we then do not focus as much on our Present moment?

S: Our buying into “waiting” may not be useful. Chris advised us to “lose wait.” Drawing on the discernment you’ve developed from living in duality, supposing you either (1) focussed on the present in passive awareness which, because of the way passive awareness works, would cleanse your mind and spirit of limitations or (2) focus on your future which, by the Law of Attraction, would then begin drawing that future to you?

See the articles on the questions of losing wait, resting in passive awareness, and envisioning the future in this section: Preparing for Ascension

C: I had reached a place where I have been able to marry my spiritual practice with my work and my relationships with others, meaning, I have finally found a way to be in the world but not of it and that has brought me to a place of such profound inner peace, I am often surprised at how good I feel.

Thus, I find myself in a peculiar place of understanding that ascension is a part of our evolution as we find our way back to God, but I’m not sure that focusing on it is the way to achieve it?

S: My understanding is that you’ll achieve it if you simply open to it. There are thousands and thousands of ascended galactics and spirits here to help you at the right time with anything else you need. Focusing on Ascension is not totally necessary, but it is helpful.

C: I guess what I’m wondering is: If I am enjoying my experience here and feel that I am serving my purpose by just Being Present as often as I can, do I need to focus on ascension? Indeed, do I need to ascend?

S:First of all, I hear that you are having success being here now, being present.

Secondly, no, you don’t need to focus on Ascension if you’re enjoying your time here.  If you’re being present, that is a huge amount of the overall work that has already been accomplished.

My hunch is that you’ll be given experiences, foretastes of 5D in the weeks and months ahead, and that these will help you decide whether you wish to move further along the road to seeking Ascension.  Do you need to ascend? No. No one “needs” to ascend.

C: Can’t I just enjoy my life as it is and if I ascend, fine, but if I don’t, does it really matter? Because eventually through the cycle of birth and death, don’t we move on to higher dimensions anyway over time?

S: Yes, you can just enjoy your life as it is.

Does it really matter? Does feeling full matter over feeling hungry? Does being loved matter over being ignored?  We do move on to higher dimensions over time – that’s true. But we don’t have this wonderful once-every-26,000-years opportunity to make this amount of progress all at once and with everyone else coming along with us.

Moreover, if you attempt to ascend by your own individual efforts, well, prepare to live a life of tremendous karmic cleansing. You’ll have to do by your efforts, and often through tremendous suffering, what is about to be handed to you on a silver platter. And prepare for it to take another perhaps 10,000 years of lifetimes full of a little pleasure but a very great deal of pain (illness, old age, perhaps debt, poverty, etc.).

C: Is anyone else feeling a bit out of sorts because we are focusing too much on what “tomorrow” may bring and perhaps not enough on just being present in today?

Are the galactics our saviors or are we our own saviors?

S: Anyone care to comment?

C: I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

S: OK, now a word to others: To get a sense of what the Fourth Dimension would be like, go to

http://www.angelfire.com/space2/light11/nmh/nmh-index1.html

And read the following chapters:

The Astral Plane – Arrival
The Astral Plane – Orientation
The Astral Plane – Common Summerland Elements
The Astral Plane – The Higher Summerlands

There are chapters there on the Mental Planes, or 5D, too, but they have far less description in them. My hunch is that when you see how wonderful 4D is compared to 3D, you’ll be able to make the imaginative leap about how much more wonderful 5D is than 4D.

The dimensions are more and more breathtaking as we ascend them, but the leap in wonderment from one to the next is what we probably don’t fully comprehend. There is a hhhhhuuuuuuggggeeeee difference between 3D and 4D, for instance, and the same between 4D and 5D.

My Dad apparently is tickled pink with what he’s found on the Astral Planes. Imagine what he would feel when he gazes upon the Mental Planes.

Thanks, Cruise, for your questions. I’m sure a lot of people have them.

Namaste,

Steve

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  1. I tend to agree with Cruise on how concentrating continuously on Ascension sucks the life out of you. I too have found that nothing, and I mean nothing interest me anymore. I’m only 58 years old. I once loved life and enjoyed so many hobbies and interests. Yet, the more I spend dwelling on Ascension, the less I enjoy day to day life. Plus, the constant waiting for disclosure, and the resulting disappointment when it doesn’t happen, crushes my hopes and makes me doubt. Cruise, SaLuSa recently said that disclosure WILL happen by the end of this year. So until Dec 31, 2011 I’ve decided to remain accepting and hopeful. If nothing happens by the end of 2011, I for one am bowing out of this movement because in my opinion, the 12 remaining months until Dec 21 2012 is NOT ENOUGH TIME to get the entire earth prepared for Ascension. I have NO DOUBT that my galactic family and friends are going to disclose themselves. It’s when, I’m beginning to struggle with.

    • Starsong, I dont think I’d hold my breath on channeled messages from SaLuSA.The truth is setting dates should not be a part (PERIOD) of any lightworkers path.When doing so we only make ourselves look like fools to our friends and loved ones when the prediction fails!!I for one refuse to fall into this trap again.SaLuSa predicted with certainty that they would arrive in mass on Oct.14th 2008 and nothing happened. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVNjclSUKHY so please do not hold your breath with reguards to Dec 31 2011 and disclosure.One thing that I appreciate about Messages From Matthew is that he does not set nor does Hatonn set dates.They give us information based on ours and Earths energy fields.Seems like every time I try to share what I think I know about Ascension,our Galictic family,crop circles,9/11 truth,the illuminati,false religon,all I get back is shunned and they think I’m off my rocker!How can we share what we know(which is what were supposed to do)when all we get is ridicule?I have always thought of Asention as having more of our intended powers or abilities such as levitation,seeing into others thoughts,moving objicts with our minds,remote viewing and the list goes on.We have several among us presently who have some of these powers that we lost when our DNA was altered and we were left with only 2 helixes.

  2. Cruise, save yourself. Starsong, love yourself then all anxiety will fade away.

  3. Cruise, no-one is ever saved because no-one ever needs saving. First because death does not exist – only transition from one plane to another, and secondly because it is a 3d word that relates (related) to our 3d illusion of what life means.
    For example . . . “he saved my life”, no, he partnered you in your choice to experience an alternative to transition, or in the case of a person who assists another in avoiding a self-destructive life (i.e. alcoholism, drugs or being abusive to others) your devolution.
    Hope this helps!

  4. The closer we get to our own Truth, the more paradoxes and tests we will face. To let the unfolding of disclosure and ascension become a ‘thing’ in one’s mind on which our happiness resides, is to fall into an upgraded version of the same mental traps we’ve been subject to our whole lives.

    One wise saying that applies well for advanced seeking like this- “If you see the Buddha, kill him” The Buddha, in this metaphor, is our IDEAS about buddhahood, or our external projection of him. This is one of our final obstacles to overcome.

    So find it in your heart to long for ascension while holding no expectation whatsoever about it! Even the most “trusted” info on this site or anywhere is subject to being inaccurate, just part of the picture, or totally off. This is true for everything!

    IMO it is all a lesson that reminds us to see our present I AM consciousness, the ever-present field of Love, as the only truth. No external thought, prediction, or person can ever change this. No TV show can change the TV box itself. Let your expectations uncomfortably dissolve away until you are nothing, and believe nothing. From there, you will be empty and finally at peace. It sounds scary to our mind, but this is the door to our Highest Self <3

  5. Cruisegurl wrote: “I had reached a place where I have been able to marry my spiritual practice with my work and my relationships with others, meaning, I have finally found a way to be in the world but not of it and that has brought me to a place of such profound inner peace, I am often surprised at how good I feel.”

    Based on what you say here, there is nothing left for you to do. There is no need to wait for anything, just keep doing whatever you are doing, and as long as you are able to maintain that inner peace no matter what happens in the world around you, you will ascend.

    In Love,
    Manoj

    http://goldenagejourney.blogspot.com

  6. The right now job for everyone in regards to ascension, should be creating the peace and the fabulous future as an ascended master, they wish to see in the world – with your very own thinking – it does not require you to go anywhere to do it –

    If you are busy and distracted operating as a human doing – you cannot have the actual time of day to know what a human being is, you are simply kidding yourself with intellectual information.

    Ascension is a right brain operation – you need your right brain imagination to get there and you need something you don’t currently have to do it – Time – There is nothing to do – only to be. It requires time – Your time has been stolen and you can thank the illuminati for making you a human doing, with plenty of responsibilities and useless preoccupations for distracting you away from your being-ness. You need to take your life back by taking your time back – so you can practice ‘being’ emotionally stable for unity consciousness in 5d with others –

    Certainly, you will find that it does not pay too well and why you are caught up in a rat race chasing something there is nothing of – money- trying to pay for something that never was – debt –

    A well planned trick on our consciousness to get us to do something we would never ‘do’ , if we were told the truth with full disclosure in good faith. Everything you are involved in doing in your life – is a fiction contract – the problem is – real people cannot deal with fiction ghosts who do not exist – so why are you ‘doing’ it?

    Your new responsibility in 5d, will be to ‘be’ the creator manifestor we all inherently are. To find what it is that you came here to create – because you are the creator – it is not a job – it is an adventure with excitement and enthusiasm – find in yourself what brings you the greatest joy in creating, to be a caretaker of a new earth – practice practice practice

    That is it – that is the job. Build a better mousetrap for the world – whatever floats your boat – though it is not a doing thing in exchange for making something there is nothing of called money – it is not to sell anything by way of a contract in a structure of doing commerce to keep us a slaves on prison planet earth –

    The new money is your ability to appreciate, in exchange for something you are unable to truly do now, while you are plenty busy trying to make that stuff called money – something there is nothing of – to keep everyone divided inside of themselves in order to be conquered from being able to come together with anyone else, so unity can take place for co-creation with others.

    You need to ‘be’-‘ in’ your mind to do it. If you are literally out of your mind in your thinking in other places not paying attention to your focus of intention – while doing a laundry list of insignificant things – then you cannot ‘be’ in your mind in the present
    moment to create anything, except more of the same groundhog day.

    You need to be in your mind to move the mountain collectively with others and on the same page, knowing and understanding the same truth. You cannot be a manifestor without peace of mind and without certainty of your reality- and have any chaos and confusion going on in your mind at the same time –

    Keep your mind where your feet are and stay there – so you can have stability in the right now moment in time – so you can practice the process of ‘being’ the creator that you already are and just forgot, all of us – You might have to quit your illuminati job in order to do it. Whatever it takes – it is the superbowl of your life –

    You absolutely need to score the winning touchdown to be a competent creator in your own mind all by yourself – with others doing the same thing together, in order to move the mountain to make the leap in your own consciousness – it is not a waiting thing –

    That attitude does not qualify for a caretaker roll on a new earth – behaving as an ascended master of your own thinking in service to others is not a waiting thing – that is why the galactics have not arrived sooner – because you are still waiting in your mind-

    If you are sitting around ‘waiting’ in your mind – you are wasting valuable precious time to help humanity and the world with your thinking alone – not truly understanding what your personal roll in ascension is about –

    You can give yourself the title of a lightworker, though you would not fool me while waiting for something to happen, when it all starts with your very own thinking to first bahave as the creator with everything you have to give – no half measures will do, or you are not serious enough for a 5d paradigm shift in the field of consciousness –

    You need to become all that you can ‘be’ right now not later – get serious – very serious – otherwise the illuminati are deadly serious about taking you down a completely other road of death dis-ease and destruction – if you don’t get a hold of your own mind – because it has been effectively stolen from you, without your knowledge of it ever taking place –

    Otherwise we would not have a problem now would we – Accept the responsibility for your complicity in the grand play for the crimes against humanity by your very own participation –

    If you don’t understand what is taking place to steal your mind so you are unable to use it for yourself – then you can do nothing about it – All of your current structured indoctrinated belief systems are going out the door forever – what works for you now – will not work for you anymore in 5d –

    It is a right brain operation to use your imagination like never before – to create in your own mind without needing approval from anyone else – it’s all you. If you always need proof for everything – you won’t make it – because you can’t make up your own mind to be a the emotionally sovereign competent creator you need to ‘be’ for 5d-

  7. Great dialogue, Steve.

    I can relate to Cruisegurl’s questions. They are very real and important from my perspective. There is much I love about this Earthly existence: the awesome beauty of creation, the divine ecstasy of sex, the joyful experience of preparing, eating and sharing exquisite food. All of these in their highest form encompass our five senses but also enjoin our consciousness and the feeling of love and thankfulness.

    I have given much consideration to how this translates into 4D and 5D for I, for one, would love to experience all of this Eden in its Divine form as my Divine form. Despite my imaginings, the picture is incomplete. What’s left for me is to turn it over to God for its unfolding, knowing that God has infinite possibilities where we have a finite quantity. It can only be more wonderful.

    As for “duality”, I believe that, until we are totally absorbed back into the Oneness, polarity is part of the nature of things. One needs an observer and an observed, a creator and substance with which to create. That is by definition. One polarity is good vs. bad. But another could be happiness vs. joy where happiness is a passive state whereas joy is an active state. Also like/love, rest/action, interior/exterior experience, etc.

    Above all (as others have said here) being in the moment (here, now) is the doorway.

    Love & Light,
    Doug

  8. In my humble opinion, we should help people and love people and ask nothing in return except to “pay it forward”. Simple.

  9. Thank you Steve for your ‘piece of work’, it is very informative and ye – necessary. Also thanks to all above replies, it is so good to know that so many people are already in the ‘thinking mode’.
    I’ve given up to talk to people if they don’t either ask questions or if I cannot detect any signs of a different way of thinking. I simply leave it to God and wait for more of the changes coming. This will surely make it much easier for us to be of help if needed and wanted.
    Cruise, the way I see it is: the extraterrestials are our helpers who give their very loving service to us Earthlings and we ourselves are our own saviours if we think that we have to be saved.
    I, for one, am not putting any time expectations onto all those promises but am fully trusting God/All-That-Is to know what is the right thing for All of us. I think all we have to do is make our choice.

  10. I love this site and everyones perspective,it helps me grow.One looking glass into the future can be found with Dr Bruce Goldberg and even he says there can be several parallel universes,demintions or alternate realities if you would.I think our reality all has to do with our growth patern and do not believe anything we cant handle will happen.Be it Ascension or disclosure.This was the result of several future life progressions and food for thought. http://www.drbrucegoldberg.com/newlart8.htm

  11. What I have read about the Law of Abundance says that what one focuses on is what one gets.If I keep waiting for something to happen, waiting for something to happen is what I will get. It is said to be like a mirror that reflects what I put in front of it. If I give thanks for what I have, even tho I haven’t got it yet, I will get what I have given thanks for. Are we our own saviors is thoroughly covered in Allan Kardec’s book “The Spirits’ Book”, but the short answer is yes, we are, and the sooner we get to it the sooner we advance. None of the spirits are going to resist temptation for us. Malcolm.

  12. Thank you Steve, and everyone who participated in this discussion.

    Very helpful comments, one and all.

    I feel best when I continue my spiritual practices and just attend to what is in front of me, moment to moment. My spiritual practices include, but are not limited to, meditations with the intention of becoming One with God and meditations of light and healing for Mother Earth and her inhabitants. I have learned from many teachers that the most important thing is to just keep meditating, and I always feel best when I keep these practices without fail.

    I am having extraordinary experiences in other dimensions while my body is asleep, so I can only believe that I am being prepared for the ability to live in 4d or 5d (and all the rest thereafter) as I progress towards my desire for Oneness.

    I think everything else, aside from serving others as part of that Oneness I seek, is just chatter and distraction.

    Passive awareness feels right to me. Thank you, Steve, for reminding me of J.K.’s teaching on that.

    And so I will continue in that way.

    As my dad used to say, “just keep on keeping on…”

    Thank you, everyone.

    Blessings,

    Cruisegurl